What AM I To Recover from???

I Dont think i like when people say everyone is recovering or getting better because this does not apply to my type. I was born with what causes me to be depressed or to have involuntary movements, or to have urges and impulses. This i cannot recover from. It is in my blood, my make-up, my DNA. The only struggle my type have to so called "Recover" from (Which i dont understand how can we recover from ourselves unless we die)..., IS THE ACKNOWLEGEMENT of all that makes us good and bad (chemical imbalance, schitzo gene, tourettic gene, ADD ,who we are. If we struggle for years to hide or not seek the understanding of who we are, then we will suffer until we do.

Welcome Mizzy. I feel like I've come into the middle of a conversation... yet I cannot find the conversation thread...

sometimes I feel like you do... I "died" at birth and things went downhill from there? talk about being wired differently from everyone else...

personally, I'm too depressed to discuss this with you, but I hope you will stick around, and perhaps you will find others who are similar to you (even if you don't want that.)

tonight I have no standard answers ppl normally give... and obviously you don't want that kind of answer anyway. please wait for one of my better days... I think we will understand each other.

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I don't know your story, but if someone that had contracted the AIDS virus were reading my post and offended that I was suggesting that they "recover" then I would really have no sympathy for their assumption that they believed I was referring to them.
If my post applies to you, then take it under consideration; or don't; I am not responsible for how someone perceives a post that has been written. I apologize if you too have found offence with something I have posted. If you have not found offence but are just continuing the dialogue then consider this: I was born with brown hair. I can accept that I was born with brown hair and consider several options. 1. I can be grateful that I wasn't born with red or blonde hair; 2. I can dye my hair; or 3. I can forever feel sorry for myself and reach out for other's pity all because "I was born with brown hair and there's nothing I can do about it." WAA WAA WAA!!!
If you find this reply offencive, then so be it. I believe I have explained myself over, and over, and over and over again. If you don't believe that my post applies to your circumstances, then I am unsure as to why you needed to post "A GRAND REPLY" to it. Please help me to understand.
Blessings,
Jon

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I think I see two people that don't want to move from the stance they have taken. Jon, if Mizzy has tourette's, she will never recover but to compare it to being born with brown hair is quite an injustice. You're right in saying that if the color of your hair traumatises you, then, by all means change it! That's totally different than trying to control a desease that can affect such a large portion of your life.

Mizzy, I'm sure Jon wasn't talking about recovering from a desease such as tourette's. He was talking about depression, anxiety, eating problems, SI, etc. People with these deseases can "recover" from them just like an alcoholic can recover from his addiction. None of us will ever be Healed, but we sure can stay in a constant state of "recovery." "Recovery" is a life time journey because our illnesses are compounded by other things such as abuse we suffered as children, our own self-image, etc. That we can surely recover from!

Let's stop comparing oranges and apples, ok? Let's learn to have some patience and understanding for others! Let's top making snap judgments about the other without having the first clue what it's like "to walk in their moccasins."

Jon, you have a very strong character and it shows in everything you write. I'm the same way. The only difference is that it's constantly on my mind that I need to temper my words because I can be misunderstood so easily simply because other's emotions can be raw. You might want to think along those lines, too.






<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

Thank you Sept. I think that my point was the one that you made; in that I WASN'T writing about something such as tourette's syndrome--especially since I know so little of it. The part about brown hair was just a hypothetical of what I was referring to.
Anyway, thanks for your kind words. Blessings.
Jon

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I hope that you didn't miss my point of having to learn patience and understanding for those who are in a different place than we are.

I also hope that you understand that I'm not taking sides. There were misunderstandings on both sides. Being born with brown hair in no way compares to being born with something like Tourette's. Even being born with a Cleff Palate can be changed with surgery. Not so Tourette's. I hope you can understand the difference.

Please try to understand the difference in the mental state of another person when they respond to you in a matter that you feel is unfavorable to you and don't take it as if it was a personal attack on your character.





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

thank you both for the stimulating conversationing
sorry about the grand reply comment didnt mean to offend ya Jon

No, I didn't miss that part; thanks for being such a great person.
Blessings,
Jon

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Thank you for that; I just had some interesting replies to that post; and what I just wish that people would understand is that my post was also to preach to myself; and give myself a swift kick in the ***.
Peace be upon you,
Jon

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Jon...

I'm glad people are coming to an understanding about your original post. I do understand the concept of posting something as a reminder of something that I have to work on.

I do think part of the misunderstanding of the original post is because you used the words "pity party" and at the time there was a "pity party" thread in one of the other forum sections... maybe that was a coincidence or maybe you used that as a jumping off point for your own thinking (sorry, don't mean to be trying to read your mind so much here) but I think that made it sound like a personal criticism of specific people here. I don't think there was anything in your post that pointed to specific people but it kind of "felt" like it might have been... and I admit that's what I thought when I first read it.

That might explain some of the argumentative responses as a result of that. I hope everyone has a better understanding now, and maybe can even revisit the point of that post. I do agree with your point... some people do get comfortable being ill and refuse to let themselves make any progress. Or they receive "secondary gain" to the misery (can you tell I've been in therapy ) and maybe like the attention it brings or something.

I think that is something people have to inspect for themselves with some self discovery. I think it is a good thing to point that out. But I don't think it is a good thing to make that judgement toward other people, especially here, where people are already taking the active step of joining this community to help themselves, and where this should be a safe and non-judgemental environment for people to express their feelings.

I know judgement was not your intent and I apologize for misinterpreting originally. However I am glad there has been an opportunity to have everyone heard and hopefully better understanding all around.

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Thanks Dexter;
I think that if people would have read all of the replies (other people's and also mine to them) they would have had a better understanding of what I was talking about. As I had mentioned to Rapunzel; I LOVED her pity party post and contributed numerous times to it.
Looking back at the original post, I probably was a little too judgemental at first; and I recognize that we all are on our own journeys and it takes some of us longer than others...my post was not about telling anyone to "hurry up" but to share with others my thoughts on those who make a concious decision to stop trying. (I've been there numerous times)
I think the original post was to give myself a higher expectation; as only a couple of weeks before I was planning to "self-terminate" because I just didn't want to get better. So, I've been there.
Thanks for your reply.
Jon

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ARGH! You can't win when someone insists on rationalizing everything!

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<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

>> ARGH! You can't win when someone insists on rationalizing everything!

That's what you get for reading my long-winded posts .

I think the MOST important thing is that people get along here as well as possible so that it continues to be a safe and comfortable place for those who are vulnerable. That requires sensitivity when posting and understanding when reading. We are very talented at interpreting a piece of communication in the most negative and hurtful way... it's how our depressed brains work. Too bad we can't get paid for that special skill!

There are always going to be misunderstandings, and even occasionally errors of judgement by both posters and readers... but I can't say "nobody's perfect" because I already shot that theory to heck in another thread . If we can get past them we grow even stronger as a community.

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As always, you are right! Have you given yourself credit for the wisdom, patience and understanding of other people that you posess? I sure hope you have!

What's happening here is that I'm seeing shadows of my own self in denial and I don't like what I see... soooo... I'm just gonna step back. Prudent, don't you think?

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