age of dying

Fuzzybear · Mar 17, 2019 at 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by downandlonely

I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:

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Are they euthanizing people who have mental illnesses but not physical illnesses? I always thought of euthanasia as ending the suffering of people who are dying soon anyway. I didn't think of it as suicide.

I believe that it’s “intolerable suffering” long term .. with no “hope” of “cure”- obviously different people would define this in different ways - mainly physical illnesses but in some cases mental illnesses also.

Mar 17, 2019 at 05:50 PM

You are okay FuzzyBear. Take a breath. You aren't horrible. You are okay. Breathe. You are not alone.

Fuzzybear · Mar 17, 2019 at 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverTrees

You are okay FuzzyBear. Take a breath. You aren't horrible. You are okay. Breathe. You are not alone.

Thank you

Mar 17, 2019 at 06:35 PM

I watched the docu. Thank you for the link, Emily. I am still thinking about it and will be for quite some time. For now, I feel humbled. I had no idea that any country had legalized euthanasia for mental illness. And it apparently only takes three appointments with a psychiatrist; if you live in a certain place that is.

I don't know. I'm not sure what to say about it right now.

Mar 18, 2019 at 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverTrees

I don't know. I'm not sure what to say about it right now.

Yes, prior to seeing it I had been a big euthanasia proponent but afterward I had some lingering doubts. Goes to show how you can think something is good in theory but in practice, have some real doubts.

12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by downandlonely

I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:

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Unfortunately it was someone with depression. It was terribly sad because she really felt she needed to do it but her kids didn't and felt she was just depressed. I do think that before getting green lighted she had to go see a mental health person who signed off on it.

I would only do it for reasons related to physical health.

12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Emily Fox Seaton

Unfortunately it was someone with depression. It was terribly sad because she really felt she needed to do it but her kids didn't and felt she was just depressed. I do think that before getting green lighted she had to go see a mental health person who signed off on it.

I would only do it for reasons related to physical health.

Where did that happen Emily? Which country? It's really quite shocking.

Mar 17, 2019 at 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverTrees

Where did that happen Emily? Which country? It's really quite shocking.

Ack I wanted to hide that stuff ,, can someone help me out, I apparently don't know how to.

I think it was netherlands. It really made me think.

Mar 17, 2019 at 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily Fox Seaton

Ack I wanted to hide that stuff ,, can someone help me out, I apparently don't know how to.

I think it was netherlands. It really made me think.

She had no physical problems, only depression? How old was she? It was chronic?

May she rest in peace.

Fuzzybear · Mar 17, 2019 at 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverTrees

How grim is it? I mean I know the sad topic but is it really hard to watch? I'm very sensitive...sometimes sad films can upset me for quite a while. I'm also interested to learn more as someone who has lived with depression since early childhood.

I haven’t watched this either, I’m also very sensitive. But I’m interested in learning more

Mar 17, 2019 at 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by downandlonely

I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:

Possible trigger:

Are they euthanizing people who have mental illnesses but not physical illnesses? I always thought of euthanasia as ending the suffering of people who are dying soon anyway. I didn't think of it as suicide.

I don't know DownandLonely. I thought it was only legal in cases of terminal illness. I have not seen the documentary.

rechu · Mar 19, 2019 at 08:43 AM

I don't have a set age. I guess for me it's more about being in decent shape physically and mentally. Also, it would be terrible to be old and not have enough money to support myself.

Our landlord who lives next door is well into her 90s, senile, going blind and is pretty much deaf. She can barely get around. She's been declining for years but is still alive. Honestly, she should probably not be living alone. I wouldn't want to be that age if it meant living in that state for years. Same with an ex-friend's dad who is about the same age and bedridden with severe dementia.

Then, on the other hand you have this guy that was a goalkeeper for our national football team, Sergio Livingstone. After his playing career was over, he worked as a sports commentator. He died at 92, and was well enough physically and mentally to work up until a few weeks before his death. Living long in a situation like that, would be okay, I think. It doesn't seem like finances were a problem for him either.

Fuzzybear · Mar 19, 2019 at 02:43 PM

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Travelinglady · Mar 19, 2019 at 02:52 PM

Believe me, 50 is young. I've thought that I at least want to live into my mid eighties.

I personally don't think we should pick a perfect age to die because we won't know how healthy we'll be then and what our life circumstances will be then.

Fuzzybear · Mar 19, 2019 at 04:55 PM

Having read this thread

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I think 70 is being generous

winter4me · Mar 24, 2019 at 07:24 AM

Congrads!

avlady · Mar 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM

My mother and her best friend used to say when they were in their 20's "lets shoot each other when we turn 75 if we are still alive" as a joking pact. They didn't want to experience the altimiers, dementia, and parkinsons they saw their parents, friends and neighbors go through.it was a joke and they are both 80 today and my mom has dementia and altizmeires.

TJGE · Apr 07, 2019 at 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by raging vortex

I've decided that I'd hate to live past the age of 50- I think 50 is my limit

is this wrong?

actually setting up the age you want it all to end?

I'm in my early 50's.

I want to end my life and have been planning for it.

I can't get work anymore to earn enough to get my own housing(apt) & healthcare.

Free isn't available for me.

Nothing is free in this world. If I don't have the money to pay for what I need then there is no point in existing.

This is not mental illness talking.

I am rational.

If I can't get work (and i want to work), then I don't want to die slowly in poverty.

I have enough to bury me now than if I spend my money on food, hygiene and car to exist.

My life won't get better that is why.

I have no family nor social supports.

Most ppl do

I've been shunned from society

The hard cold truth is, "no one cares."

Those who offer platitudes aren't paying my bills.

Fuzzybear · Apr 08, 2019 at 12:55 PM

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