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I guess one can't read the article unless you have an account. And I don't have one. But thanks for the info anyway. Hope you're doing well.
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I have not read it, but I'm glad she was critical of his work. Freud really didn't understand female sexuality at all. And I heard he found out about a lot of women and girls being sexually abused, but was pressured into covering it up.
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The lead to a Washington Post article (which I cannot read) says "The last surviving grandchild of Sigmund Freud described her grandfather as one of the “false prophets of the 20th century.”" I disagree with this, if true; I think Freud was very right in his earlier days but could not stand the reception his ideas got and changed his theories to imply that patients' stories of parental mistreatment were not true, and only reflected their own inner conflicts.
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He also had the penis envy theory though, that all women wish they had penises. I'm pretty sure that makes him a false prophet. I have never wanted a penis and don't know any women who do.
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My ex-wife wanted one.
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I suppose some trans men do. But that is not all females.
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I agreed with not all females. The ex didn't become a trans-man. She identifies as being bisexual. Bisexuality is part of Freud's early work that got swept under the rug. I read a biography about him once where he was quoted as stating that he thought any theory on functional mental illness would have to focus on this bisexual aspect.
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Interesting. I didn't know about Freud's work on bisexuality. I do know a lot of bisexual women though and don't know any who wish they had penises. I still think that's pretty rare.
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Sophie at 97 - wow.
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What I read before was that Freud got his theory about bisexuality from his one time friend, Fliess, but never gave him the credit. Here is a link to an interesting 4 or 5 page paper by Edward J Kempf. In it he tells about going and meeting with Freud and discussing the method he was using with his patients.
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I would like a penis. I'm not Bi or Trans, but I do dream of being a man lots of the time. It's not something I notice in my dreams, either. I just am naturally male. My T says I have a lot of male parts.
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So much of any type of science is dependent upon era. Sigmund was practicing at a time when women were sexually oppressed - and such things as incest were certainly not acknowledged. Sophie was practicing at the height of "women's lib," a time when the dirty underside of how woman had been mistreated since forever was being exposed.
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If you feel male, just wondering why you don't think you are trans?
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I am female in my dreams about half the time. Not sure how to identify whether I feel male or female during my waking hours (It's not as simple as in a dream, where I am factually one or the other). I think it's just a power thing. Most woman in my family were/are abusive and, simultaneously, weak. It occurs to me that I wish to feel strong, which my subconcious interpretes as being male.
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I think it's ok to self-identify as trans. The trans people I know feel that they are innately the gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. But now they have the new non-binary designation, which I believe also qualifies as trans. And that is not identifying with either one gender or the other all the time. I think that's where I fit best. I've never felt particularly female or male.
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Of course, that's fine, and I don't mind either way. I feel the need to lable myself has passed me by. I call myself female because I was born female. I also only ever had realtionships with men, but I have felt attracted to women before. No idea what the future holds, but whatever it holds, it's fine. I guess I mostly feel non-binary, as per your definition, though there are moments where I feel strongly male or female, too. It really makes no difference in the end, right?
ETA: Funnily, I own a stuffed animal that I identify as female but call "Mr Bear". __________________ my life explained in two smileys Last edited by AliceKate; Jun 19, 2022 at 01:14 PM.. |
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