[inkblot]

ROFL, Doc, I love this!

http://search.psychcentral.com/store/

[SeptemberMorn]

LMAO!!! I gotta get me a mug with "Freud was a dirty old man!" LOLOL But for the "It's not me, it's the ______ talking" I need one that says Celexa. LOL

Is that square thing a mouse pad?? I want one! LOL





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

[inkblot]

Great, isn't it?! I'd normally say, "Screw Freud", but the man would take it as a compliment! Had a one-track mind, and we all know where it was. He became psychotic at the end of his life. I don't remember exactly what happened to him other than he was institutionalized. Wish I could remember his exact diagnosis. In any case, I had to laugh learning that! Hehehee, he became one of us! (Hope no one takes this the wrong way)

[SeptemberMorn]

Dang, Girl! You can't tell us that and not give us the diagnosis!

LMAO!! You're such a nut!! (oops! I hope you don't take that the "wrong" way! LOL )

There's two people on this board that I can always count on for a laugh... you're one of them. The "other one" knows who he is. hee hee




<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

I don't recall reading anything about Freud developing any psychosis later in life. He died after battling cancer for years. This is a very interesting page about his illness and death. Really, not all that morbid.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.freud.org.uk/fie5.html>http://www.freud.org.uk/fie5.html</A>

emmy

[inkblot]

I had gotten my information from a psychology reference book in the library. I'll have to see if I can find it. I'll check that link of your's too.

[Rapunzel]

Ewen, Robert B. An Introduction To Theories Of Personality. Mahwah, New Jersey: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2003; p.14

"During the last 16 years of his life, Freud was afflicted with an extremely serious cancer of the mouth and jaw. This required no fewer than thirty-three operations, forced him to wear an awkward prosthesis to fill the resulting gap between what had been the nasal and oral cavities, and prevented him at times from speaking and swallowing, yet he bore this ordeal with his customary stoic courage. Nor did he curtail his prolific and literate writings, which fill twenty-three volumes and won the Goethe Prize in 1930. Still one more trial was in store: the Nazi invasion of Vienna in 1938, during which Anna was detained by the Gestapo but eventually released. Freud and his family successfully escaped to London, where he was received with great honor. There he finally succumbed to the cancer on September 23, 1939. Freud's death took the currently controversial form of an assisted suicide: he reluctantly decided that his suffering had reached the point where going on made no sense, and his doctor administered a dose of morphine that produced a peaceful sleep from which Freud never awoke."

<font color=orange>"If a light beckons to you, follow it. If it leads you into the quagmire, you'll probably find your way out of it again; but if you don't follow it, you'll be plagued for the rest of your life by the thought that perhaps it was your star." Friedrich Hebbet</font color=orange>

[SeptemberMorn]

Inky, it's really not that important to me or that serious a matter as far as that goes. If I recall, it's Doc John that's offering these articles of clothing, etc. with the sayings, right? It's just a fun thing! Nothing to start a debate over. Jeez! LOL





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

[inkblot]

No, not a debate. It's trivia to me. But I do know for positive that Freud had depression, used cocaine, and was labeled "neurotic". I can't remember much more than that for sure.

[SweetCrusader]

Not to "debate" more, but you have to think of Freud in terms of his time period and culture. Back then, using cocaine was not seen as harmful, "deviant," or even unusual. It was very late in Freud's life that people started realizing the effects of cocaine.

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[inkblot]

Oh, I know. He became aware of this himself and began to warn others. Anyway, that's history.

[SweetCrusader]

lol! yeah, who needs it anyway?

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[Rapunzel]

It was in this period that heroin was developed, as a safer alternative to morphine. Freud recommended heroin for this use, as it was believed to be less addictive. One of his friends followed his advice and became addicted to heroin. That was the times, and he did seem to be able to learn from that mistake.

Freud did have issues of his own, and I feel that a lot of his theory is based on his own experience. This really isn't uncommon at all, as most of the best theories deal with things that the theorist experienced.

Another paragraph from Ewen (p.13):

"Freud's own life provide him with a great deal of psychological data. He was himself Oedipal, had powerful unconscious hostility towards his father, and was quite close to his mother (who was some nineteen years younger than her husband and devoted to her "golden Sigi"). Freud suffered from a severe neurosis during the 1890s yet did strikingly original work during this time, as though the pressure of his own emerging psychopathology drove him to new heights. Ellenberger has described this syndrome as a "creative illness." The sufferer undergoes agonizing symptoms that alternately worsen and improve, exaggerated feelings of isolation, and intense self-absorption, and emerges from this ordeal with a permanently transformed personality and the conviction of having discovered profound new truths. During this period Freud also began his self-analysis (1897), probing the depths of his own mind with the psychological techniques that he developed. Though his creative illness ended by 1900, he continued the self-analysis for the remainder of his life and reserved the last half-hour of each day for this purpose."

<font color=orange>"If a light beckons to you, follow it. If it leads you into the quagmire, you'll probably find your way out of it again; but if you don't follow it, you'll be plagued for the rest of your life by the thought that perhaps it was your star." Friedrich Hebbet</font color=orange>

[SweetCrusader]

Everyone knows Freud was looney. How else could he believe the stuff he pushed? lol! And he truly did believe it.

His Oedipal theory was def derived from his own experience, particularly the one he writes about where he saw his mother naked when he was very young, and I guess desired her sexually. Freud really made no secret about the personal roots of his theory. He published it himself, in fact! He just failed to recognize that perhaps what was true for him was NOT "normal" or true for EVERYONE! lol

I wasn't arguing that he wan't "one of us" as someone said he was. (And lol! to that!!!) I was just pointing out that the cocaine thing is NOT in any way evidence of that, if you look at it in a cultural context. Besides, there is much better evidence than that. Freud did a LOT of jacked up things! (What was the client whose nose they broke or something to cure her sexual issues? I'll have to look that up again!-- Don't worry, just for my own reading. I won't bore you all with it here! lol)

But I don't want to get all "theoretical" lol. Just having a good laugh at old "Sigi"

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-
<div class="foot">(Edited by SweetCrusader on 09/05/04 05:17 PM.)</div>

[SunshineGold03]

I love this! Too funny!