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Trig Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30 PM
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Why are psychiatric nurses mean to patients who are on suicide watch? I'd think they should try to be more understanding. Their ugliness certainly didn't encourage me to stop my sui thoughts....
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I'm not sure either. I've experienced that before, I have had nice ones but some are not pleasant. Maybe they're not happy with their job or are burned out. I'm sorry you had to deal with that

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By-&-large the staff I met when I was hospitalized were... what shall I say... "professional"? But it seems like there always has to be a couple of bad apples in the barrel, so to speak. I'm sorry to hear you had to find them... especially under such difficult circumstances. Hope you're feeling better...
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I've wondered this myself. Unforunately last time I was in one they were very unprofessional.
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Why are psychiatric nurses mean to patients who are on suicide watch? I'd think they should try to be more understanding. Their ugliness certainly didn't encourage me to stop my sui thoughts....
Good question! I am sorry you experienced this mistreatment. Unfortunately it is common in healthcare. While there are many variables at play, a lot of it has to do with empathy burnout and or compassion fatigue. Basically where the nurses lose the ability to empathise and instead hold a negative distaste for patients.

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It’s interesting - any time I was in the hospital for non-psych issues (surgeries and such) the care I received from the nurses was unparalleled. They were fantastic. Then I got to the psych ward and it was like “what the hell happened?” I wonder if they’re bored with their job (where I was they were basically glorified babysitters for us) and lack challenge and motivation. I definitely noticed a difference tho.
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They must have had the same training classes that the elementary school lunch aids and the motor vehicle agency workers had.

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I started training as a psychiatric nurse myself (long ago) but got out because I realised too much of the psychiatric system is more focussed on control than care & treatment and too often I was coming across nurses who seemed to be more attracted to, or worn down by, that aspect. That doesn't mean all nurses are like that, there are some great nurses out there but I'm referring to the system as a whole which is a coercive system, not an enabling one. Different in medical care, there is much more compassion and empathy, but mental health is full of stigmatised attitudes and devaluing of people.
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I started training as a psychiatric nurse myself (long ago) but got out because I realised too much of the psychiatric system is more focussed on control than care & treatment and too often I was coming across nurses who seemed to be more attracted to, or worn down by, that aspect. That doesn't mean all nurses are like that, there are some great nurses out there but I'm referring to the system as a whole which is a coercive system, not an enabling one. Different in medical care, there is much more compassion and empathy, but mental health is full of stigmatised attitudes and devaluing of people.
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If you don't mind, can you share more about your experiences? Perhaps specific cases that you remember that led you to stop pursuing the career as Psych nurse?

I have to say, I know what you are saying is true; I have personally experienced it.

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I've met mostly sarcastic and emotionally apathetic nurses during my previous hospitalization. Seems like they were told not to be soft on patients in case they get taken advantage of or being interfered in their jobs.
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I started training as a psychiatric nurse myself (long ago) but got out because I realised too much of the psychiatric system is more focussed on control than care & treatment and too often I was coming across nurses who seemed to be more attracted to, or worn down by, that aspect. That doesn't mean all nurses are like that, there are some great nurses out there but I'm referring to the system as a whole which is a coercive system, not an enabling one. Different in medical care, there is much more compassion and empathy, but mental health is full of stigmatised attitudes and devaluing of people.
WELL said. I'm dealing with my own regular dr and therapist going from nice to coercive, trying to cash in on thinking to "recover" you need more visits, and group, etc. I don't do groups. I don't do extra visits. I was diagnosed as some sort of breakdown when the ER flew me into their room because I had an organ stop working. Breakdown? Not a mental one, just physical. But sent to mental anyway because the Dr didn't want to be wrong. How self-serving. Hope you give a big smile in the face of bad caregivers, and turn your back on them. I live to irritate!
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I think it is more difficult to be a psych nurse..it seems you are expected to be kind, nice and "on " every shift all the time...for everyone, regardless of their diagnosis. some folks do need to be babysat, others not so much, some act out, others need their meds adjusted, but everyone wants the nurses to be "theirs" emotionally .. it must take a special kind of person to select this field..and don't forget when someone lands in a psych unit your perception of things may not be 100% accurate due to illness, lack of meds, etc. just saying (some nurses could be toast, but at times it could be something else)
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I think it is more difficult to be a psych nurse..it seems you are expected to be kind, nice and "on " every shift all the time...for everyone, regardless of their diagnosis. some folks do need to be babysat, others not so much, some act out, others need their meds adjusted, but everyone wants the nurses to be "theirs" emotionally .. it must take a special kind of person to select this field..and don't forget when someone lands in a psych unit your perception of things may not be 100% accurate due to illness, lack of meds, etc. just saying (some nurses could be toast, but at times it could be something else)

I don't think 'acting out' is the right phrase, as if we accept we are unwell and have an illness how our symptoms present themselves is not a choice, it's not 'bad behaviour', certainly not any more than any 'bad behaviour' in the so called normal general population. Where I do agree is that when we are unwell our perception is sometimes confused, certainly mine was so am still not sure if my confidentiality was breached by staff or not, but I could 'hear' staff abusing me very clearly one way or another, when I was under section and seen as a danger to myself.

Nurses and all mh staff are just as subject to societal stigma as everyone else, and they can often interpret our actions as 'acting out', and 'bad behaviour'. I have heard some dreadful attitudes from nurses towards patients. Maybe they become jaded with the ins and out of their job, but I don't think the current system was built on an empathetic attitude towards those with mental illness, more that of contempt and fear. It is based on how much of a risk we are seen as to ourselves and others rather than how best to resolve our psychological trauma in order that we will be permanently helped and hopefully healed from it. The medical model of course is not based around cure, rather maintenance and management of symptoms, as cure would mean discontinuation of treatment (usually meds) and loss of profits to those who make money out of illness.
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I don't think 'acting out' is the right phrase, as if we accept we are unwell and have an illness how our symptoms present themselves is not a choice, it's not 'bad behaviour', certainly not any more than any 'bad behaviour' in the so called normal general population. Where I do agree is that when we are unwell our perception is sometimes confused, certainly mine was so am still not sure if my confidentiality was breached by staff or not, but I could 'hear' staff abusing me very clearly one way or another, when I was under section and seen as a danger to myself.

Nurses and all mh staff are just as subject to societal stigma as everyone else, and they can often interpret our actions as 'acting out', and 'bad behaviour'. I have heard some dreadful attitudes from nurses towards patients. Maybe they become jaded with the ins and out of their job, but I don't think the current system was built on an empathetic attitude towards those with mental illness, more that of contempt and fear. It is based on how much of a risk we are seen as to ourselves and others rather than how best to resolve our psychological trauma in order that we will be permanently helped and hopefully healed from it. The medical model of course is not based around cure, rather maintenance and management of symptoms, as cure would mean discontinuation of treatment (usually meds) and loss of profits to those who make money out of illness.
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I always had fantastic nurses in the hospital. Extremely helpful. Good listeners.
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I got caught self harming and they made me
Sit at the desk. They were not nice as I’m sure I cost them
A load of paperwork. And no
I didn’t want tk get caught. I was doing it in tbt bathroom and there’s not
Bathroom door just a shower curtain. So the lady
Demanded I come out when she didn’t hear my
Peeing and had my show her my
Stomach where I already had marks and she saw what I’d done.


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I've been IP 3 times, for long periods, all at the same psych hospitals, and all the nurses have been spectacular - nice and really caring. Even when I was on a locked general psych unit, that had people with all kinds of diagnosis and many were involuntary the nurses were nice, if perhaps more rushed to engage in real one on one care.

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I have had some good nurses, too, but I really remember the bad ones--grumpy, impatient, even rude and, as I say, downright mean.
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