[Kraut]

My psychiatrists have been pressuring me to try Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation for several years now. Every time they bring it up, I refuse to try it.

I've seen the YouTube videos of people having this procedure done. It scrambles your brain. You speak gibberish.

My brain is screwed up enough. I don't need any help in that department.

I'm posting this today because I have just read the following article about TMS.

When Johnathan Surmont checked himself into the San Diego VA psych ward in the summer of 2017, the tall, clean-cut veteran removed his sandals and absolved the medical staff of all sin.

He was God’s second son, he announced, and he couldn’t wait for karaoke night.

Surmont’s psychotic episode continued after his release from the VA, and it took the 45-year-old former Navy SEAL on a weeks-long breaking, entering and vandalizing tour from San Diego to Los Angeles. During that trip, he went far off the grid: ditching his phone, forgetting his own name and believing he was part of a covert military operation where all things in his path — coins, car maneuvers, airplanes, even arresting officers — cued him toward his next steps.

As a Navy SEAL, he was a highly trained military weapon capable of harming a large number of people, so family and friends breathed easier when the father of three resurfaced weeks later as an inmate at an L.A. County jail, calling himself John Francis Kennedy.

Surmont struggled with post-traumatic stress after tours in the Middle East and Asia. A car accident in 2013 worsened and compounded that condition by adding to it a traumatic brain injury. But more than 100 medical checkups and psychological evaluations showed he had no history of psychosis, mania, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or hallucinations leading up to the onset of his symptoms in early 2017.

VA doctors were stumped when his psychosis fizzled following his incarceration, never to reappear. They noted in Surmont’s medical record that determining the cause was unimportant — an “academic exercise.” But the doctors had a hunch. So did Surmont. So did his family and friends. So did his psychologist and his psychotherapist girlfriend.

It involved Dr. Kevin Murphy, an oncologist and vice chairman in the school of medicine at the University of California San Diego. Medical records show it was Murphy who supervised at least 234 treatments of an unproven type of electromagnetic therapy to Surmont’s brain in the years leading up to the psychotic break . . .

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[Yaowen]

I don't know anything to speak of about TMS but I hope you find treatments that help you!

[bpcyclist]

I hear you. It does seem to provide benefit to some patients.

[Misterpain]

Just as aside in the psycho babble world it's short for tell me a story ,when they want to see your imagination logic and reasoning.

As for Transcranial magnetic stimulation ,I have followed it closely as the electrician who wiredme was an amateur, an actual ability to neyromodulate would be a game changing novel prize in medicine winning event un like the shmuck won one for the infamous horror called Lobotomy . There are two states of brain waves we think we understand conscious and anhulated by an anesthetic , much like anti psychotic ,anti depressants ,mood stabilizers and all bid Pharma's wondrous new pill ,it's all done with theories and short term trials to make sure we don't kill to many people with our latest "stuff" ,I have a rare alpha delta inversion as well as epilepsy ,so something that could do a handyman special fixer up would be awesome and potentialy life changing, but we have to learn to crawl before we walk ,and from what I have seen ,sham placebo TMS has shown no better results than actual "treatment" .

I don't want to rain on antibodies parade who has had it and feels it benefited them ,however it's way to early and there are no standards or science ,technically you could put an alternator on a football helmet and sell it as a TMS device. Unless and until real world efficacy and permonce is proven I am doing to sit this one out ,watch and wait,some of you know when I was young and dumb, I took some bad drugs on advice of my doctor and I am lining with the adverse effects that the company didn't tell the FDA about ,because they would have gotten turned down cold and not be making billions with nothing but a black box warning I have and still am doing the heavy lifting on this patentened drug ,i am not going near anything patented ever again ,after people have taken it for 10 tears you actually will know the true possible side effects that himans can have ,instead of the cherry picked fata that companies report to get the cobeted FDA Indication as "safe and effective for X".

[Kraut]

Misterpain,

A special "thank you" for your response.

I, too, fell victim to a prescribed med, Ritalin. I lost everything. EVERYTHING.

My psychiatrist at the time admitted to me that it shot me into deep psychosis.

I suppose I could have sued, but I was in no condition to even properly take care of myself.

Now, twelve years later, I am still f'ed up.

A bad drug ruined my life and my relationships.

I am in endless mourning for the life I could have had over the last 12 years.

[SMRY]

Originally Posted by Kraut

My psychiatrists have been pressuring me to try Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation for several years now. Every time they bring it up, I refuse to try it.

I've seen the YouTube videos of people having this procedure done. It scrambles your brain. You speak gibberish.

My brain is screwed up enough. I don't need any help in that department.

I'm posting this today because I have just read the following article about TMS.


Read the rest of this very long article here.

TMS did help me....I had 36 treatments at a REPUTABLE facility. The article you reference says the individual had 234 treatments! No wonder he was messed up. Talking gibberish? Nonsense!

[SlumberKitty]

Wow, I never heard of that. My Case Manager/Care Coordinator wanted me to ask my Pdoc about it. I'm glad that he didn't think it was appropriate for me!

[downandlonely]

I have never had it myself, but have talked to others who have. The people I talked to weren't harmed by it, but also didn't find it effective for depression.

[Travelinglady]

So, is it anything like ECT?

[SMRY]

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

So, is it anything like ECT?

Absolutely not!

[Calla lily12]

I've never had TMS but I have had ECT and it's saved my life many times over. Since everyone is different, not everyone will do well with certain treatments.