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Default May 25, 2023 at 12:27 PM
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Note: I have obtained permission to post on this subject. Marijuana is legal where I live. I don't recommend it for people who live where it is illegal, or for minors.

My husband has taken it for years for his fibromyalgia and claimed it help, although I wondered if he was just saying that to get high, but he takes a fairly small amount (about the size of the eraser on a pencil).


I vaped mj several times before feeling any "high" but since I have asthma and vaping would trigger an attack, I stopped. I don't like edibles due to the delayed reaction which makes it hard to know how much you're taking.


So I purchased a sublingual THC spray (the ingredient in mj that gets you high). This spray is 2-4 mg of THC per spray. Because you take it under the tongue, it works immediately. This dose does not get me high and is a "microdose." I searched for articles about microdosing THC and there are several. Some companies even let their employees do it during working hours.


And I immediately noticed that it switches off my depression, or perhaps blocks it, even after one or two sprays. My depression is worst in the evenings.

It works better than any of the dozen antidepressant meds I've tried, and yes I gave them all 6-8 weeks or more.


It looks like my spray is being discontinued, but there are sublingual strips and tinctures so I'll be trying those.


I take CBD with it. CBD never worked on its own for me, but I bought some full-spectrum CBD and it seems to help anxiety in combination with the THC.
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Default May 25, 2023 at 02:29 PM
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What is CBD. They just passed new laws here. Currently edibles are legal but by July or aug everything is legal. So I’m interested in learning more. I tried the edible but was not impressed. What I’m interested in is finding out if it works for insomnia

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Default May 25, 2023 at 03:57 PM
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What is CBD. They just passed new laws here. Currently edibles are legal but by July or aug everything is legal. So I’m interested in learning more. I tried the edible but was not impressed. What I’m interested in is finding out if it works for insomnia

CBD is a component of marijuana that doesn't get you high. Some people take it for anxiety or sleep. Any effect is very subtle - too subtle for me to notice it. However I do feel it helps me in combination withe the small dose of THC. I take full-spectrum CBD rather than pure CBD - you can look up the difference.


Studies of insomnia and THC are mixed. But most studies use a large dose. Also many studies are funded by the pharmaceutical industry so it may be to their benefit to find THC ineffective. I personally feel that if I microdose THC, I sleep better that night. But I don't take it right before bed.


I know that some people take alcohol to sleep, and it helps them fall asleep but disrupts their sleep cycle. I'm not sure if THC would have an effect on the sleep cycle. You can probably find studies about it.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. Anyone interested in marijuana use should do their own research. Always check with your doctor, especially if you are on other medications.
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I have Kidney Disease and I can’t take CBT or anything like Marijuana so if you take it tell your doctor if it’s something you need to do, not to worry I don’t tell your to do it.
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I was going to chime in on this thread when it was initially active, but life, as usual got in the way. So couple of months later, here goes...

I've used cannabis for sleep & for relaxation, specifically indica strains with relatively high THC percentages. I don't use it regularly, mostly because though legal where I am, it's too expensive for regular use. On the plus side that keeps my tolerance lower. That all said, I find it quite helpful - with careful dosing, I get a period of calm & serenity that allows me to someway reset the otherwise pervasive sense of fight & flight that I find cumulatively builds up over time, without becoming dysfunctional. Even after it's worn off, I'll be in a calmer mental state for some time afterwards (multiple days?) - depending on when life next selects a juicy curve-ball for me.

Now the usual disclaimer - this is not a recommendation, merely an educated observation of my personal experience.

However, my somewhat tangential question is - are there any pharmaceutical options readily available (which rules out benzos these days) that could get me that same sense of calm without any of the issues of cannabis (cost/can't drive/may be a problem for employment)? The anxiety meds I've taken thus far (buspar, hydroxyzine & trazadone) honestly don't seem to do much more than scratch the surface for me.
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I was going to chime in on this thread when it was initially active, but life, as usual got in the way. So couple of months later, here goes...

I've used cannabis for sleep & for relaxation, specifically indica strains with relatively high THC percentages. I don't use it regularly, mostly because though legal where I am, it's too expensive for regular use. On the plus side that keeps my tolerance lower. That all said, I find it quite helpful - with careful dosing, I get a period of calm & serenity that allows me to someway reset the otherwise pervasive sense of fight & flight that I find cumulatively builds up over time, without becoming dysfunctional. Even after it's worn off, I'll be in a calmer mental state for some time afterwards (multiple days?) - depending on when life next selects a juicy curve-ball for me.

Now the usual disclaimer - this is not a recommendation, merely an educated observation of my personal experience.

However, my somewhat tangential question is - are there any pharmaceutical options readily available (which rules out benzos these days) that could get me that same sense of calm without any of the issues of cannabis (cost/can't drive/may be a problem for employment)? The anxiety meds I've taken thus far (buspar, hydroxyzine & trazadone) honestly don't seem to do much more than scratch the surface for me.

For me, Sleepytime herbal tea is awesome if my anxiety is keeping me awake. I use 2 tea bags so it's strong.


I've never found something for regular anxiety that helps as well as YouTube videos for guided meditation and spirituality (I watch Buddhist videos and Stoicism videos). Very soothing and I can choose whatever topic is bothering me.
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Default Nov 14, 2023 at 10:46 PM
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My sleep psychologist says that there is no research to support CBD for sleep. Only THC for sleep. I have tried both and for several years THC (or THC with CBD, but never CBD alone) worked for sleep but then it started either not working or making me sleep for half a day. I do not use it anymore.

I have tried CBD only for sleep and it did not work at all. This was several years before I started working with the sleep psychologist who told me about the research on the subject.

Samicat, can you recommend a few Stoicism videos? I am intrigued.

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