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Default Jan 30, 2023 at 07:08 PM
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I am struggling a bit with this situation. I guess I just need to vent. I know this woman who does animal rescue. I have donated to her efforts in the past, but sadly it seems like she is becoming a hoarder. She has a lot of animals in her apartment (in the double digits) and has been somehow unable to find homes for dogs that she has in paid temporary homes for years. Yeah, I understand the pandemic probably made it harder for a while, but not anymore. My husband and I have taken in various strays over the years and were able to rehome them to good homes within a month or less. We always knew our limits, fortunately. I once requested donations for a rescue case, because the dog had to be hospitalized for a while. Fortunately, he recovered and went to a great home. Otherwise, we funded things ourselves.
I am realizing that the problem is that she can’t stop herself. She found some abandoned kittens and was able to rehome them through an adoption event. Great, right? She reduced the number of animals somewhat. Well, a few days later, she took in another litter of kittens and still has them. So, she’s back in the same place and getting quite dramatic about asking for money. I kind of feel bad, but I think supporting her at this point is enabling. It seems like fewer people are donating these days. Maybe they are feeling the same way.
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Is there MSPCA that you could contact? That is a sad situation. You are nice to help her.

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Default Jan 30, 2023 at 09:07 PM
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Rechu, I think you are wish not to give her anymore money. It does sound like enabling her. A tech at my vet's office recently told me this type of story is not unusual. If you want to donate, how about giving to a recognized charity? Best Friends and Alley Cat Allies are two I donate to in the States. They use very little for administrative reasons. Most of the money donated goes to the rescued animals. I know you are in Chile. There must be something similar in the country.
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Default Jan 30, 2023 at 09:33 PM
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the "crazy" cat lady that i am sympathisizes with both you and her on this matter. the bottom line to all this is that
while even though i am completely aware of the fact i am not the last resort people have for getting rid of cats they dont want i just simply can not let any cats be without a means of help. which translates into right now my household of pets consists of 1 dog, 1 bird, 1 rabbit & 20 cats.

i totally understand taking care of all these animals was & is my choice to do so however ... that said .. even tho i work a part time time job & im on a fixed low income monthly ss benefit & my decision to give all these animals a safe home to live in costs me in roughly $500 a month in my chewy food autoship order alone, which does NOT include :
the cost of fresh lettuce, veges & fruit for the bunny,
or the approx $80 a month for the various foods to feed the bird with,
or the cost of the litter for the 10 litter boxes i have, or the cost of 20 cat & 1 dog monthly doeses of flea drops, or the cost 1 dog monthly heartworm pills, or the cost of all the yearly feline & canine vaccines for all my pets along with the cost of any needed vet expenses that are necessary...

the expense of my choosing to taking care of all the animals i decided to take care care is not up to anyone but me to pay for & most certainly is not your responsibility to help her pay for those costs.
its up to you to to make the decesion to help her out by pitching in a few dollars every now & then when you can spare it or if you dont want to pitch in to her "cause" then just dont give her any money whenever she asks you for it.
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Default Jan 30, 2023 at 10:50 PM
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I have rescued strays,but only one at a time,ended up owning them until their death.Recently someone has asked me to adopt one.I couldn't. Owning a pet is a big responsibility. I don't have energy right now.I never went overboard with rescuing, so never needed donations.It is better to not encourage hoarding by not donating to this particular lady.
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It can be hard for a good hearted animal lover to walk away from an animal in need.
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I can see both sides, I understand your concerns but I also understand that she feels like she cannot walk away from a animal in need, Tigger's previous person was like that, she ended up with 14 cats and 2 dogs and we don't know what other animals, the RSPCA got called and had to take in almost all of the cats, I don't know if they took the dogs, all I do know is the owner was not coping in a small house with that number of pets, none of them had ever gone outside (as far as I know, even the dogs had never been outside), none of them were spayed or neutered so as well as taking animals in, they were also being allowed to breed

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Default Jan 31, 2023 at 06:49 AM
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Been trying to find a rescue in Chile and came across this link, maybe give her the link and suggest she lists the pets on here? Chile Animal Rescue ― Dogs, Cats & More ― RescueMe.Org
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I have a small monthly donation set up with this foundation - FCDLV @2019 and when they sell things for fundraisers, like coffee mugs, I usually buy a few. I am thinking of increasing my monthly contribution to them.

Cala Lily 12 - I live in a developing country that has made strides in improving the situation with stray animals. But, there is still a lot to be done. There is no nationwide SPCA or similar. Most initiatives are at the municipal level or private. The municipality where I used to live had free spay/neuter/vaccination clinics. Where I live now is probably one of the more innovative places. They have a dog shelter that adopts out strays and a low-cost vet clinic. In downtown they have dog houses for the small number of stray dogs there, with food and water dispensers. There is an animal cruelty law, but if you report something, it's the investigative police that gets involved. I don't think this case is at the level of involving police. I don't know that they would do something.
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I have suggested a few sites that I have listed animals on in the past. She seems intent on only using social media. Thanks for the link willowtigger, but it does not seem active, probably because it is in English.


In the area where I used to live there was a serious dog hoarding situation a few blocks away. There must have been at least 100 dogs. The woman let the dogs all live together and they were not spayed or neutered. So, the problem kept getting worse. An animal welfare organization tried to help, but the owner wanted them all to be sent to the same refuge. No refuge was equipped to receive so many dogs at once. Eventually, the authorities got involved and one day the dogs were no longer there. I am not sure where they ended up.
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It’s not that simple as animal loving people taking endless animals out of goodness of their heart.

Poor animals are often aren’t receiving proper nutrition and medical care because there is no space for or owners cannot afford it. I literally have met people who couldn’t take their endless pets to be seen by a vet and they let them suffer. It’s terrible.

Some people cannot get along with other humans so they fill their life with animals trying to fill the void, but they don’t care for their animals properly. So it’s selfishness. Keeping 100 dogs unneutered is cruelty not kindness. And this other person didn’t even let dogs outside. It’s sick, not heartwarming whatsoever

And some people want to keep expensive animals. Horses for example. They don’t give it a thought how they are going to care for them. Then they can’t properly feed them and either neglect poor creatures or beg the rest of us. It’s not thought through. It’s like taking 20 foster children you can’t feed or educate or medically care for. No one would say “oh that’s so sweet”. It’s all in the same category. It’s not love. There is a much deeper issue at play
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It’s not that simple as animal loving people taking endless animals out of goodness of their heart.

Poor animals are often aren’t receiving proper nutrition and medical care because there is no space for or owners cannot afford it. I literally have met people who couldn’t take their endless pets to be seen by a vet and they let them suffer. It’s terrible.

Some people cannot get along with other humans so they fill their life with animals trying to fill the void, but they don’t care for their animals properly. So it’s selfishness. Keeping 100 dogs unneutered is cruelty not kindness. And this other person didn’t even let dogs outside. It’s sick, not heartwarming whatsoever

And some people want to keep expensive animals. Horses for example. They don’t give it a thought how they are going to care for them. Then they can’t properly feed them and either neglect poor creatures or beg the rest of us. It’s not thought through. It’s like taking 20 foster children you can’t feed or educate or medically care for. No one would say “oh that’s so sweet”. It’s all in the same category. It’s not love. There is a much deeper issue at play
Knowing i cant care for them is why i dont get horses or dogs, personally

A dog might one day be a option, but currently i would not be able to give dog the attention he or she needs

Same as why even if Willow would accept a third cat in the house (which she wont), i know two is my limit

If i could give three cats the same amount of attention then i would try my girls with the long term boy cat from the rescue Willow came from, but like i said two is my limit
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Yes, knowing your limits and not expecting people to constantly bail you out are vital. It feels like she has gotten used to people giving her money, so she takes in more animals with the expectation that others will pay for them.

Here we have two dogs and two cats after losing a dog and a cat last year. My husband sometimes says he wants another German shepherd like our dog Jade. But, we have talked and I told him I don't really have the energy to deal with another dog now. Two energetic dogs is my limit at the moment.


That one time I asked for donations was a very extreme case. The dog had mange over most of his body and was emaciated. A neighbor was threatening to throw him in the trash dumpster if he was still there in the afternoon. So, with another neighbor we took him to the vet to get him out of there. I would have found a way to pay the bills myself if no one wanted to donate, but people wanted to help after hearing his story. He recovered fully and went to a great home.
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I saw a wonderful quote years ago that I still love. "A true horseman will eat cheese and crackers for dinner all week so a horse can get a shot it needs." That's been my philosophy. Horses are incredibly expensive to support. I tell people buying the horse is not the expensive part (though it can be). It's paying to support them that costs. Sadly in my area a lot of people find a "cheap" horse, buy it, can't afford feed, hay, vet expenses and let the animal suffer.
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Yes, knowing your limits and not expecting people to constantly bail you out are vital. It feels like she has gotten used to people giving her money, so she takes in more animals with the expectation that others will pay for them.

Here we have two dogs and two cats after losing a dog and a cat last year. My husband sometimes says he wants another German shepherd like our dog Jade. But, we have talked and I told him I don't really have the energy to deal with another dog now. Two energetic dogs is my limit at the moment.


That one time I asked for donations was a very extreme case. The dog had mange over most of his body and was emaciated. A neighbor was threatening to throw him in the trash dumpster if he was still there in the afternoon. So, with another neighbor we took him to the vet to get him out of there. I would have found a way to pay the bills myself if no one wanted to donate, but people wanted to help after hearing his story. He recovered fully and went to a great home.
That’s wonderful. Glad you helped poor doggy
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I saw a wonderful quote years ago that I still love. "A true horseman will eat cheese and crackers for dinner all week so a horse can get a shot it needs." That's been my philosophy. Horses are incredibly expensive to support. I tell people buying the horse is not the expensive part (though it can be). It's paying to support them that costs. Sadly in my area a lot of people find a "cheap" horse, buy it, can't afford feed, hay, vet expenses and let the animal suffer.
So true. And then people call themselves animal lovers when they insist on keeping animals not properly cared for or not being safe. It’s not about animals then, but about selfish humans doing it for attention.
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Knowing i cant care for them is why i dont get horses or dogs, personally

A dog might one day be a option, but currently i would not be able to give dog the attention he or she needs

Same as why even if Willow would accept a third cat in the house (which she wont), i know two is my limit

If i could give three cats the same amount of attention then i would try my girls with the long term boy cat from the rescue Willow came from, but like i said two is my limit
That’s very mature and wise attitude. It shows your kindness. You aren’t making it about yourself.
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This is that rescued doggie in his new home.

https://mysupportforums.org/album.ph...ictureid=68102

I won't post a before picture. It's too sad. He sure cleaned up nice, though.
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What a cutie!
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This is that rescued doggie in his new home.

https://mysupportforums.org/album.ph...ictureid=68102

I won't post a before picture. It's too sad. He sure cleaned up nice, though.
aww what a darling
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