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Default Mar 06, 2021 at 04:10 AM
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Well,
I've had an overeating disorder for nearly 25 years now... and I'm starting a journal to track my success... I've recently overcome multiple other addictions and I feel in remission of them, but food is proving to be more tricky...
I did 40 days of healthy eating but in this last week I started to relapse... and now I have to start all over again from the beginning...
I will report back next few days as I get it underway...
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Default Mar 07, 2021 at 08:55 AM
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it's difficult to control overeating. I'm an overeater too

good luck with the healthy eating- I hope it goes okay!
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Default Mar 14, 2021 at 06:11 PM
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ever since I stopped drinking I cant stop snacking and I am diabetic and over weight
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Default Apr 07, 2021 at 06:43 PM
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Food addiction is tough, because unlike cigarettes or alcohol or gambling, we need food to survive. Best of luck though, we’re all in this together. Wishing you lots of success!

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Default Apr 07, 2021 at 07:03 PM
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I’m not an overeater so much as I am an undermover. I’m way too sedentary. The number of calories I eat is way too much for my lack of movement. Plus I don’t choose healthy calories it’s mostly the meals on wheels precooked meals that just go in the microwave. Not much raw or fresh in my diet. Meals on wheels does send oranges and apples and bananas but I only eat the apples. But moving causes pain. But the lack of movement causes weight gain and increases the pain. I’m stuck in a viscous cycle.

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Default Apr 09, 2021 at 06:47 PM
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Pretty much my story. But after I quit smoking my eating really got out of control.
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Default May 02, 2021 at 02:00 PM
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@Nammu:

I have the same problem of being too sedentary. But exercise is so painful after, the next day especially. I've been walking with my neighbor and our dogs every morning and that is about all i can manage and keep up with my housework and hygiene. I'm eager for COVID to be over so i can get into our pool. I think that would be less painful.

I'm in menopause too, not sure about you? It's extremely hard to lose weight at this stage. If i put the same amount of effort into losing weight when i was younger i would lose many more times the weight.

I'm so scared about the last time i tried to diet, last August, when i weighed myself and found after the first week of suffering truly hideous hunger that i had gained weight that i am not allowing myself to weigh myself this time and it's been eleven days, i would usually weigh weekly, i would usually have had my first weigh-in by now.

I will just gauge how i am doing by how my jeans fit. I have a snug pair and once i need a belt, i'll know i've been successful. It's hard not getting the weekly feedback that the scale gives tho but i quit my diet last time out of frustration after one week and i don't want to do that again.

There have been other improvements in my digestion and energy and sleep schedule so i am trying to count those other achievements too while i wait to see an improvement in my weight which might not be for some time.

Well, i wrote a book but if we support each other in increasing our exercise and healthy living it can only be easier!

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Yes, food addiction is uniquely hard. With other substance abuse disorders you can just stop cold-turkey and never use the substance again. With food you still have to confront it three times a day. With drugs and alcohol you can lock up your substance, your tiger, in a cage and throw away the key. With food, you have to put a leash on the tiger and walk it three times a day!

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Default May 02, 2021 at 02:06 PM
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@Ontherightpath:

I see you haven't posted in a while. How is it going with your struggle with food? Sounds like you made some good progress with your forty days of healthy eating. Were you able to get back to it?

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Default May 02, 2021 at 05:41 PM
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Ive been doing Starch Solution, various versions. Right now im on rice, beans, green veg, fruit, and the occasional canned meat or fish. Plus coffee of course.

Im eating what i feel are large portions, because they are shelf stable packages and say they are two servings each, but heck, i always feel like i could eat more but i dont. Im at around 500 cals a meal, 2 - 3 meals a day, depending on naps per day.

Im trying to eat more slowly, because i noticed i was waiting to eat until i was too hungry then eating too fast. So im concentrating on chewing my black rice, which is sooooo delicious. I was eating potatoes a couple of months ago, now im on rice. I always felt like i couldnt eat these foods because they were fattening right? But they are so delicious, and i dont need cookies to feel a meal is complete. Im feeling calm, which is even weirder.

I feel like i was ALWAYS hungry. While i was in school, while i was in college, while i was working - never breakfast, a meager lunch, a stressed or delayed dinner. I retired and i didnt know how to take care of myself. Im still learning. The emotional part, to not neglect myself, is the hardest.
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Default May 02, 2021 at 07:05 PM
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@unaluna:

Thanks for sharing! I've never heard of a Starch Solution diet. I'll look into it. I've never heard of black rice either. I'll check it out. Are you sure you're getting enough protein? You're retired, a big lifestyle change. No wonder you have to figure things out. I'm happy to hear you're not hungry and feel calm. That's great!

The emotional component is hard for me too. I find myself comforted by Kristen Neff's twenty minute TED Talk on self-compassion. How long have you been dieting for? Do you have a lot of weight to lose? Your calories sound admirable. Surely you will lose weight on those numbers!

Thanks for chiming in! Keep us posted as things evolve!

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Default May 03, 2021 at 03:32 AM
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@unaluna:

I looked into The Starch Solution diet and what a surprise! Carbs are GOOD on this plan! It's affordable too. I myself follow The Canada Food Guide which is very heavy on vegetables, as per my doctors advice, but it's still good to know. I'm really turned off by The Paleo Diet with it's emphasis on meat. Glad to read about alternatives.

I read about black rice, also called Forbidden Rice because it was reserved for the aristocracy in Ancient China. Apparently it has powerful antioxidant properties. I will look for it when i am next in our bulk foods store. Thanks for the tip!

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Default May 03, 2021 at 06:11 AM
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It is so difficult. I am doing Keto and fasting now.. I thought that was going to work until I noticed my inflammation was through the roof... in the past that has always been a sign I am eating to little so I am not sure that fasting is going to work for me.

Basically I have this issue... it is a crazy thin line between starvation and eating too much. I have a low metabolism.
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Default May 03, 2021 at 09:40 AM
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Welcome to the overeating/binge-eating forum! Glad to have you participating!

I have a slow metabolism too. It's worse now that i'm in menopause (54). Hard to get that scale to budge. I'm attempting to rejuvenate it with exercise but i am so weak from a Winter of depression (bipolar) and COVID inertia that i am so weak walking is all i can manage. Luckily i have a darling neighbor who walks regularly so we go every morning with our dogs on whom we both dote. I'm not able to speak much as i breathe so hard, my enormous belly is pressing on my diaphragm, i think, so i am short-of-breath especially when we tackle one hill on our route.

I guess with inflammation you are probably very cautious about exercise. It's a hard position to be in, yours. I guess just do the best you can. I'm skeptical of keto and intermittent fasting myself but i am suspicious of all diet fads. I'm certainly no example at 5'3" and 250 pounds, but i just do a calorie-reduced diet according to The Canada Food Guide, which can be found online. My doctor recommends this approach. It's very heavy on the vegetables and quite easy to follow and makes good sense to me. We've agreed that 1200 cals a day is a good amount for me.

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Default May 03, 2021 at 10:15 AM
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I'm skeptical of keto and intermittent fasting myself but i am suspicious of all diet fads.:
Both are not fads.

Keto was used extensively in the early 1900s for people with Epilepsy and all were fine. Fasting has been used for millions of years (and now) for various religions. You should look into them - Imagine if it was the key to weight loss.

But both say you shouldn't eat too little calories... which I was doing. I had the same thing happen to me when I did a calorie restricted diet. I was medically supervised but my doctor would NOT HEAR of the idea that the diet could cause inflammation or increase in cholesterol. She also wouldn't hear of it when I got to a place where I was stuck well before goal.

I have decided to take Tumeric to tamp down the inflammation. See what happens. I have actually lost 40 lbs since December doing ADF (with breaks). I have 30 more lbs to go for "normal weight".

What I liked about fasting was I could make mistakes. Right now calorie restriction can be so tricky. If you get the wrong calories or eat too much low a low metabolism you can not lose or gain. But with something like fasting, who cares what you eat during the week if you are going to just not eat anything on your fasting day... that is likely to really drop calories and cure any errors of when you are eating.
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Wow, you're really doing great with your program! Glad it's working for you! A forty pound loss is huge!

For my part, i prefer to follow medical advice from my doctor. I'm happy that these other methods are working for you but i have to do ME, as you have to do YOU. We can all support each other even tho we choose different methods of weight loss. All must respect all.

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For my part, i prefer to follow medical advice from my doctor. I
And that is where we differ. But both Keto and fasting are things that many doctors prescribe and endorse...

The "science" relates to reduction in excess insulin not particularly calorie count.

Also, there is a new book out from an evolutionary biologist called "Burn" where he states that exercise will not help you lose weight. He spent ten years with hunter gatherers in Africa and measured their daily calorie burn and it was the same as people in the USA. Even though they do much much greater exercise.

He found the same with animals... measuring wild against in captivity.

He doesn't say that exercise isn't good for you generally but it won't help with weight loss.
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@NatalieJastrow:

Hmm, lots to think about. I'm striving to be "teachable" so i'm open to your ideas as i know you're just trying to help. I'll look into them all, just not right this second. Science evolves and perhaps new ideas have merit. I'll explore them and broaden my horizons! Glad to have you aboard as you sound as passionate about the subject of weight-loss as i am! And you sound like you are an avid reader as well, up-to-date on all the newest research!

I have lost weight before on a calorie-reduced diet. Fifteen years ago i dieted in this manner and lost 65 pounds in a year. So i know from experience that this method works for me and i figure if it's not broken, don't fix it, but this method may not be optimal as i may discover by looking into your ideas. I haven't really kept up with all the latest research so perhaps there are things for me to learn, new methods for me to explore.

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Default May 04, 2021 at 05:36 PM
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Did a "drive-by" weigh-in this morning - after poop but not after a pee day (prescription diuretic) and it looked like it was under 255. I have an old-fashioned analog scale, not a digital display, so that blade just bobs and weaves. But i would call that a fluctuate-DOWN, so think my rice and beans and veg diet is working.

Today i had:
Breakfast: 1 pm: rice, beans, olives, canned peaches, coffee.
Lunch: 5 pm: three roasted red peppers (from a can), slice of mestermacher bread.
Dinner: not yet!

First time i had the rice and beans and olives together. First time i wasnt still hungry after breakfast, and that i was satisfied with a fairly light lunch. It was SO HARD to LET myself eat such a HUGE breakfast, but i counted it on the weight watchers app yesterday and it was within bounds, so i dont know what the problem REALLY is.

I dont want to be anxious and hungry. I think normal people do not spend all day anxious because they are hungry.
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Congratulations on breaking 255! That's just great! We are at similar weights, both Large Marges! Do you find your diet is very cheap? Rice and beans are cheap. I just wonder if saving money is another advantage of your diet. Fresh veg are not cheap but frozen ones are also. A dietician told me frozen veg are still nutritious, tho not as much as fresh, but it's so hard to keep fresh food on hand. It means shopping every few days. I'm not up to that. I'm happy with my 2kg bags of frozen veg. I'll try some fresh fruit tho for when i feel binge-y. I hate going to the grocery store. Do you? I get a big order monthly and then just dart in a few times to get a bip and a bop.

Do you find it unusual to be eating rice, beans and veg at breakfast? They're not traditional breakfast foods. Did it take some getting used to? I also have a hard time eating breakfast. I feel a bit nauseous first thing in the morning. It's so important to eat breakfast tho, i force myself. I like yogurt and raspberries and calorie-free flavored water the best.

Yeah, it's important to not be TOO hungry for too long. An eating disorders psychologist told me our bodies can't tell the difference between hunger and anxiety.

I sure think that's true. In my early 30s i had tough times and couldn't afford much food and lost 60 pounds in six months and it seemed like i was feeling anxiety all the time but i'm sure really most of it was hunger. I was off meds then, again because i couldn't afford them, so it's clear that my meds are causing my weight problem.

I'm withdrawing from one of my three psych meds (bipolar) now and will hopefully be able to get off a second one and just use the third on an emergency basis.

I'm pretty stable, tho having an upswing at the moment due to Spring, as happens every year. I'm modulating it with sensory-deprivation today as yesterday was a nightmare.

I wonder if you would consider starting to put your posts on the check-in thread? It's easier to monitor the one tread and better for interaction. Check-in threads are intended for daily updates and it would be easier for us to keep track of each other. Just a suggestion!

Glad to hear your diet's going so well and that you're getting such great results!

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