Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Apr 14, 2012, 09:52 PM
ImMentallyILL ImMentallyILL is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 94
I need a religion that doesn't allow a person to take medications like antidepressants and antipsychotics. I might be forced into a mental hospital so I need an excuse to refuse medications. Any Religion?
Hugs from:
Puffyprue

advertisement
  #2  
Old Apr 14, 2012, 10:00 PM
Trippin2.0's Avatar
Trippin2.0 Trippin2.0 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Cape Town South Africa
Posts: 11,937
Are you ok? Why would you be forced inpatient?
  #3  
Old Apr 14, 2012, 10:18 PM
ImMentallyILL ImMentallyILL is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trippin2.0 View Post
Are you ok? Why would you be forced inpatient?
I'm going to say a few things to my new therapist that will guaranteed me a stay in a locked mental hospital. I'm going to refuse any type of medications.
  #4  
Old Apr 14, 2012, 10:22 PM
Trippin2.0's Avatar
Trippin2.0 Trippin2.0 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Cape Town South Africa
Posts: 11,937
You're very brave. You should be proud of yourself. I really hope your T can help you.
  #5  
Old Apr 15, 2012, 09:10 AM
Fresia's Avatar
Fresia Fresia is offline
Wandering soul
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Location: Off yonder
Posts: 6,019
I hope you are ok and that you stay safe, inpatient or not. If you do not believe in medication therapy, you can refuse medical treatment even without it being on religious grounds, unless a threat to self or others, in that case religion may not help either in some states. I hope you find the help that you want and the answers that you seek. Sending well wishes meanwhile, and please take good care.
__________________

I can be changed by what happens to me. But I refuse to be reduced by it. -M.Angelou
Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage. -Anaïs Nin.
It is very rare or almost impossible that an event can be negative from all points of view.
-Dalai Lama XIV
  #6  
Old Apr 15, 2012, 11:08 AM
newtus's Avatar
newtus newtus is offline
The Dopamine Flux
 
Member Since: Jun 2010
Location: Ardenweald
Posts: 43,644
is this a joke? seriously or am i just missing some clues?
  #7  
Old Apr 15, 2012, 03:03 PM
Rapunzel's Avatar
Rapunzel Rapunzel is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Location: noplace
Posts: 10,284
What do you want to happen? How would you like your T to help you with the things you are planning to say? And, what are your concerns about medications? What matters is that you get the most helpful and most appropriate treatment for you. The best way to have that happen is to be honest about what you are thinking and feeling, and why.

If you are considering religions, it needs to be about what you do believe, not about one thing that you don't. If you say that you belong to a religion only so that you have an excuse not to take medication, that probably won't hold up. You won't know anything else about "your" religion, what you believe, or why. But you don't have to have a religion in order to refuse medication, and medication is only one type of treatment - there are other ways to help you.

It is also possible that what you are planning to say won't be quite such a big deal as you think, and you might not be forced into a hospital.
__________________
“We should always pray for help, but we should always listen for inspiration and impression to proceed in ways different from those we may have thought of.”
– John H. Groberg

  #8  
Old Apr 15, 2012, 05:00 PM
ImMentallyILL ImMentallyILL is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresia View Post
I hope you are ok and that you stay safe, inpatient or not. If you do not believe in medication therapy, you can refuse medical treatment even without it being on religious grounds, unless a threat to self or others, in that case religion may not help either in some states. I hope you find the help that you want and the answers that you seek. Sending well wishes meanwhile, and please take good care.
You can't really discuss some things I want to say, but let's just say I'm a danger to myself. I don't think I should I tell my new therapist on what I'm planning to do but I feel like I have to. I gave up my hope on doctors and I don't want anything to do with them, either I'm getting discharged from the clinic tomorrow or I'm being sent to the psych ward for the third time. I'm also not religious I just want an excuse to refuse help or medications.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapunzel View Post
What do you want to happen? *How would you like your T to help you with the things you are planning to say? And, what are your concerns about medications? What matters is that you get the most helpful and most appropriate treatment for you. The best way to have that happen is to be honest about what you are thinking and feeling, and why.

If you are considering religions, it needs to be about what you do believe, not about one thing that you don't. If you say that you belong to a religion only so that you have an excuse not to take medication, that probably won't hold up. You won't know anything else about "your" religion, what you believe, or why. But you don't have to have a religion in order to refuse medication, and medication is only one type of treatment - there are other ways to help you.

It is also possible that what you are planning to say won't be quite such a big deal as you think, and you might not be forced into a hospital.

I made up my mind on things I reached the bottom, the things I'm going to say to him are about whether I'm here here or not in a few months. I made plans to disappear and the only reason I want help is for my mom won't have to suffer. I join a new clinic and they don't know why I want to be discharged, but I want to be honest and tell them why. If the therapist decides to send me into the hospital I'm planning on sneaking in drugs into the psych ward I'm prepare for the worst.*
  #9  
Old Apr 15, 2012, 05:15 PM
Rapunzel's Avatar
Rapunzel Rapunzel is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Location: noplace
Posts: 10,284
You say you have reached the bottom. For me, when I had reached the bottom, that was when changes started to happen for the better. It wasn't all at once, and I was at the bottom several times, but overall, things did start getting better.

You care about your mom enough to want her not to suffer. Hang on to that. Be honest and let them help you. Sneaking in something to hurt yourself with isn't letting them help you. Your mom deserves that much. So do you.
__________________
“We should always pray for help, but we should always listen for inspiration and impression to proceed in ways different from those we may have thought of.”
– John H. Groberg

  #10  
Old Apr 17, 2012, 12:39 AM
sunrise's Avatar
sunrise sunrise is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 10,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImMentallyILL View Post
I need a religion that doesn't allow a person to take medications like antidepressants and antipsychotics. I might be forced into a mental hospital so I need an excuse to refuse medications. Any Religion?
You don't need a reason for refusing medications. You just say, "I refuse to take this medication." This is true whether or not you are sent to the hospital involuntarily. No need to make up a religious excuse. Just refuse, the nurse will record it in your chart, and your doctor will probably want to talk to you about it, but you do have the right to refuse your meds. Sorry you have thought you didn't and worried so much. Hang in there. I hope you can stay safe and have the support of your therapist.
__________________
"Therapists are experts at developing therapeutic relationships."
  #11  
Old Apr 17, 2012, 01:13 AM
ImMentallyILL ImMentallyILL is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 94
When you deny your medications in the psych ward all the nurses get on you it's like take your meds you retard you need it. I think if you don't take your meds they keep you in the psych ward longer because it shows your not willing to get better. I just wanted a religion for they could back off me and leave me alone.
  #12  
Old Apr 17, 2012, 02:04 AM
sunrise's Avatar
sunrise sunrise is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 10,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImMentallyILL View Post
When you deny your medications in the psych ward all the nurses get on you it's like take your meds you retard you need it. I think if you don't take your meds they keep you in the psych ward longer because it shows your not willing to get better. I just wanted a religion for they could back off me and leave me alone.
I work in a psych ward. The nurses there do not treat patients as you suggest. Nurses must respect your right to refuse your medications (whether in a psych ward or another type of unit). If they don't, they could lose their license. The nurse will document your refusal in your chart and is required to inform the doctor that you have refused. Believe me, this is not uncommon. You will be released from the hospital when you are safe to yourself and others, as judged by your hospital doctor. If it takes you longer to be safe because you are not taking medications, then you will stay longer. Some patients stabilize more quickly with medications, some don't. It's very individual. Your excuse of religion does not matter to nurses. You do not need it. Nurses know that patients have the right to refuse medications. If it makes you feel better to make up a religious excuse, then go ahead. Do what you need to feel comfortable. Be aware that if your made-up reasons sound too far-fetched, staff will perceive this as evidence that you are not thinking clearly, and that could delay your release. It's better just to be honest and not make stuff up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImMentallyIll
If the therapist decides to send me into the hospital I'm planning on sneaking in drugs into the psych ward I'm prepare for the worst.
If you don't want to take medications in the hospital, then why bring in your own drugs? Drugs are drugs. The hospital can provide your meds or you can bring in your meds from home (the hospital doctor will have to approve them, of course).
__________________
"Therapists are experts at developing therapeutic relationships."
  #13  
Old Apr 17, 2012, 04:22 AM
sewerrats sewerrats is offline
Account Suspended
 
Member Since: Nov 2010
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 2,609
bringing your own drug,s are you wired up. Dont you think you get blood tests to show up illegal drug,s, then they say pack your bag an goodbye. wtf do you want to go in hospital if not tho take meds . You can do that at home. If your sectioned an you dont take meds then your in for life in a little nut room all to yourself, OUITE the ******** an grow up.
Reply
Views: 1576

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:49 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.