[The Fox & the Hound]

Can Psychiatric Medications hide mental illeness you don't know you have?

If so how?

Meds treats symptoms. I suppose they could if you were diagnosed incorrectly. They can also create issues. I'm not sure if that helps. Can you be more specific?

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[gayleggg]

I would think it possible. I take Latuda which is an antipsychotic, as a mood stablzer. I guess if I started having psychotic episodes I wouldn't know it because the med would fix it without me knowing anything about it.

[The Fox & the Hound]

So as a kid & early teen I was on Adereall,Zoloft,& Riatlan.For ADHD & Anixtey.

Could of those meds hide my depression? I noticed right after I got off them I started getting depressed.

Ssri (Zoloft) has a warning about withdrawal too quickly. That could cause it. It's not hiding it per se. It's the cause.

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[Webgoji]

Yup, Zoloft sounds like your culprit

[sewerrats]

That why I say meds are for if your really really ill a last resort , because stopping them is near impossible without some sort of trama and long lasting effect.

Originally Posted by sewerrats

That why I say meds are for if your really really ill a last resort , because stopping them is near impossible without some sort of trama and long lasting effect.

Preaching to the choir. But it is possible to withdrawal safety. Doctors and people don't often realize the complexity. The information is slowly getting through.

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[sewerrats]

Originally Posted by Michanne

Preaching to the choir. But it is possible to withdrawal safety. Doctors and people don't often realize the complexity. The information is slowly getting through.

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well I beg to differ , depends 1 how many meds you have been on and how long. 2 was it a depressive blip in your life through something that was quickly solved , easy withdrawal , 3/ depressive illness that keeps coming back , long term med use withdrawal maybe pointless .

[gayleggg]

Originally Posted by The Fox & the Hound

So as a kid & early teen I was on Adereall,Zoloft,& Riatlan.For ADHD & Anixtey.

Could of those meds hide my depression? I noticed right after I got off them I started getting depressed.

Yes, Zoloft is an antidepressant and could have hid your depression. I didn't have any trouble with withdrawl symptoms but did become depressed again after I quit taking it.

[Lauliza]

There isn't a ton of research out there so the doctors don't really know for sure. But I think the general opinion is that people who start ADs as kids tend to be on them for most of their life.

It may not necessarily be the same for adults though, at least not all. I know a couple of people who were on SSRIs short term and no longer take anything. But they were both cases of depression brought on by life events in adulthood, not long standing issues. I think there is a difference.

Originally Posted by sewerrats

well I beg to differ , depends 1 how many meds you have been on and how long. 2 was it a depressive blip in your life through something that was quickly solved , easy withdrawal , 3/ depressive illness that keeps coming back , long term med use withdrawal maybe pointless .

Emphasis on "possible" it took the Monica Cassini (beyondmeds.com) 11 years to withdrawal. But she'll be the first to say her story is exceptional. In this case Ritalin and adderal are relatively easy to stop comparatively. It is the Zoloft that is the bigger problem and I would recommend using a variety of sources for an informed treatment strategy.

I emphasize that a lot of drs don't understand the complexity because they assume that the depression came back because you are prone rather than considering that it may be due to drug withdrawal which they know can be a factor for a while after you quit. Much longer than originally thought. I am >not< saying this you just that it happens.


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[sewerrats]

Originally Posted by Michanne

Emphasis on "possible" it took the Monica Cassini (beyondmeds.com) 11 years to withdrawal. But she'll be the first to say her story is exceptional. In this case Ritalin and adderal are relatively easy to stop comparatively. It is the Zoloft that is the bigger problem and I would recommend using a variety of sources for an informed treatment strategy.

I emphasize that a lot of drs don't understand the complexity because they assume that the depression came back because you are prone rather than considering that it may be due to drug withdrawal which they know can be a factor for a while after you quit. Much longer than originally thought. I am >not< saying this you just that it happens.


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can you imagine the pain of going through 11 years of withdrawl why would you do that , 11 years WOW

[sewerrats]

We have an easier withdrawal from meds in England ,for the simple reason we are never on many. 1 AD is all your on very rare combos, other meds to combat side effects is not heard of. Its kinda stick with it or get off it , not we shall add this to it or some of this has well till your on 5 meds and feeling no better, 5 meds that's 5 different side effects. SSSSSSSSSo we detox one med not 5 this may sound brutal but we don't have anywhere near other countries mental health probs ,it seems less is more in England and bone idle shrinks can keep pace on your 1 med intake. Now BENZOS are another thing altogether the give them and stop them at the snap of a finger and leave detoxing benzo patients to be welcomed to hell , ring them and say I carnt do this they just say give it time.

Originally Posted by sewerrats

can you imagine the pain of going through 11 years of withdrawl why would you do that , 11 years WOW

I have been following her blog for several years. I can attest to how much she has changed. Last year she posted about her recovery. The way she looks today is nothing like a few years ago. And she is happier, obviously accomplished and light years healthier. Also, more at peace. Check out the blog for the story. It was republished a short time ago.

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[Lauliza]

Was this woman started on meds for depression brought on by something, or was it just existing depression due to other problems?

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Originally Posted by amee200

Was this woman started on meds for depression brought on by something, or was it just existing depression due to other problems?

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She got caught up in the system. I think it started with depression and the dr put her on some pills. No other physical illness. Then more pills to counteract the side effects. Way over medicated. The number might have been 6. Thinks she was unfit to drive and would go to her social work job in a fog. Gained a ton of weight. Was told she is bipolar. Does not believe this is a correct diagnosis.

Withdrawal was one med at a time >very slowly<. She suffered from protracted withdrawal which means there were physical problems. Serious ones. She was house bound until not too long ago. Pretty paranoid...used an alias for a long time. She tried to communicate with the doc to tell him all this at various times and he basically ignored her.

Like I said, her story is dramatic but cautionary. She had to change her diet, exercise, meditate, and way of thinking. I don't think most people could do this. Just to be clear, she does not believe drugs are wrong for everybody.

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[sewerrats]

Originally Posted by Michanne

She got caught up in the system. I think it started with depression and the dr put her on some pills. No other physical illness. Then more pills to counteract the side effects. Way over medicated. The number might have been 6. Thinks she was unfit to drive and would go to her social work job in a fog. Gained a ton of weight. Was told she is bipolar. Does not believe this is a correct diagnosis.

Withdrawal was one med at a time >very slowly<. She suffered from protracted withdrawal which means there were physical problems. Serious ones. She was house bound until not too long ago. Pretty paranoid...used an alias for a long time. She tried to communicate with the doc to tell him all this at various times and he basically ignored her.

Like I said, her story is dramatic but cautionary. She had to change her diet, exercise, meditate, and way of thinking. I don't think most people could do this. Just to be clear, she does not believe drugs are wrong for everybody.

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I can see the problem with 6 meds , but 11 years to get off them . You can get off heroin in 3 weeks in rehab and follow up. There is more than med detox going on with this woman. But has I have said meds for side effects is way off base to me, except the side effects or ditch the med, if the side effects are worse than the illness stop the med , don't take others on top .

[The Fox & the Hound]

Originally Posted by amee200

Was this woman started on meds for depression brought on by something, or was it just existing depression due to other problems?

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Wait what? If your talking about me or someone else? I am confused

If your talking about I was never meds for depression I was put on them for ADHD, & anixtey

EDIT: Ok, Never mind, sorry about that

Originally Posted by sewerrats

I can see the problem with 6 meds , but 11 years to get off them . You can get off heroin in 3 weeks in rehab and follow up. There is more than med detox going on with this woman. But has I have said meds for side effects is way off base to me, except the side effects or ditch the med, if the side effects are worse than the illness stop the med , don't take others on top .

Sewarrats,

You'll have to read her story. It's on madinamerica.com and her blog...beyondmeds.com. Monica Cassini.

It was the doc's idea on the meds. You ought to know there is a culture of compliance, especially with professionals of an older generation. Read her story then judge.

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