[elevatedsoul]

ive been taking the zyprexa (15mg zydis) for a few days now and from what i've read it should help me sleep...? but yet i still find it difficult to rest my eyes... i haven't felt any sedation effects from any medicines i've tried prescribed (and some non Rx)

whats wrong with me?

oh and i've started taking the benzo's again since the big panic attack the otherday.. sigh, what a story this is to live

[elevatedsoul]

should i take it in the morning instead of night?

It's an anti psychotic its supposed to cause sedation enjoy with relaz listen to music or something when it kicks in then go to sleep and of course the benzos will contribute to this very much. If you don't like how much it knocks you out then maybe you are at too high of a dose and dont get frustrated maybe you are at too low of a dose but I really doubt it good luck and try to get back to how you want to be as soon as possible. Maybe you need to change med but the one you are on is good talk to your prescriber about it good luck.

Aaaah ok i read over it and you are not sedated by it. I would suggest asking for the benzo to be increased for sleep and try not to take it every night if you can it should work if not then post again or if your prescriber says no.

[elevatedsoul]

yeah, the benzos never sedated me either though... i was thinking about trazodone?
im not sure how this zyprexa med is helping me though, making me very forgetful... but other than that i cant put any fingers on any pros
im gonna talk about the benzos too n see what we can do about them (id rather not have to rely on them if it can be helped...)

but on the other side of things, i have really been thinking of a stimulating treatment since i dont feel any sedation maybe i can have stimulation and use up energy so that i will be able to sleep at night..? sigh, this is the hardest 'game' i've ever played :/

i just cant understand why these things dont have a sedation effect on me..

Don't worry they will get you to sleep. There's even GHB "The date rape drug" that you can be prescribed.

[Morgansangel]

I've tried alsorts but nothing has worked on me either so you're not alone. I've tried zopiclone and trazadone amongst many but none of them make me sleep. I've also tried all the therapy/sleep hygiene/hypno/white noise etc and none of that works either, neither does herbal stuff from health food places etc

If you remember your last thread, this med did sedate you to start with. You could be starting to get used to it which is a good thing, honestly This means it is starting to be effective for you. I used to be on very high doses of antipsychotics too with not much of a sedation effect. It depends on where I am mood-wise, if I am really severe there is not much sedation from these meds at all, but if I am closer to stable the sedation increases.

What is your sleep hygiene like? How much do you do during the day to ensure your body is tired enough to sleep?

[herethennow]

Same as morgan, I tried many and my current med for sleep is temperamental - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it doesnt and then the next day i just feel like sleeping all the way. You're not alone

[elevatedsoul]

thanks for the replies,

If you remember your last thread, this med did sedate you to start with. You could be starting to get used to it which is a good thing, honestly This means it is starting to be effective for you. I used to be on very high doses of antipsychotics too with not much of a sedation effect. It depends on where I am mood-wise, if I am really severe there is not much sedation from these meds at all, but if I am closer to stable the sedation increases.

What is your sleep hygiene like? How much do you do during the day to ensure your body is tired enough to sleep?

i honestly dont remember >.< i have always felt exausted and fatigued, i think i posted about that... but i cant get to sleep /stay asleep and havent felt any sedation effects from any of the "tranqs" that i've tried so far the way people talk about them is like they knock you out cold, but that just doesnt seem to happen :S

Im not sure what sleep hygiene means, but i assume its how i sleep/pattern?
i've recently changed my sleep patern to try and have a more "normal" cycle, lay down 10-12pm and get up at 6am, i try to sleep in comfortable clothes if nessisary but usually without a shirt (im a guy) umm.. i dont really get to do much because of the agoraphobia atm but i try to do what i can inside, pushups, situps, stretches...

i honestly am nt that bothered that they arent working for putting me to sleep but moreso not helping any anxiety/depressin >.<

thanks again for the replies

[-jimi-]

Think we're confusing two things here, being tired and being sleepy. I have been prescribed meds in the past that were supposed to help me sleep but they just made me tired and sluggish, to the extreme actually. I felt like the tired you get from being exhausted or sick. Not the tired you want when you need to sleep.

For me clonazepam is not sleep inducing. The ones that helped me fall asleep were flunitrazepam and halcion (also ambien and zopiclone but those you can be immune to because of genetics, and they come with the risk of sleep walking etc).

[elevatedsoul]

interesting, thanks for the reply
yeah i probably confuse my sentences a little because im so confused all the time right now, just obsessed by what is happening and how i can make it better because its so difficult to get by

i apologize if i was confusing, since before i started taking medication i would feel tired and "worn out" and not able to sleep, not sleepy in my mind atleast... ( i self medicated with alcohol and others)

all this stuff is making me feel like im back in school studying for some big exam hehe
why cant there be an easy button..?

now i know its not the coffee because i have limited myself 2 cups in the morning, i dont drink soda, just water ...
im sure its to do with the PTSD because i would lay awake in the bed waiting hypervigilant to every little sound and light... i guess my body just became trained to "NO YOU CAN NOT REST AND MUST STAND GUARD!!!!" know what i mean?

i just know i dont like the meds im taking now.. buspar gives me headaches and does nothing for my anxiety, the welbutrin i cant tell what it does - maybe making my depression and anxiety worse ...

[-jimi-]

Yea, I thought about that when I saw PTSD, I've noticed many with it can't relax easily to sleep, hypervigilance I guess. And can be part of why some meds don't relax you. I wouldn't say it is strange even if many people get quite wiped out by zyprexa. I had to travel with a cat that didn't travel well once and the vet gave him something that would "make sure" he was so tired he would be almost asleep the whole trip. Yea right. He managed to raise hell for 5 hours straight and when I finally could let him out of the carrier which I thought was safe because he was so alert, he was so drugged he couldn't even walk almost. Sometimes your mind kicks back, I guess.

For me, wellbutrin made my anxiety worse, I'm not sure if it is common. Buspar made me anxious! Which docs said was impossible.

[elevatedsoul]

yeah, i think the combo (wellbutrin + buspar) isnt doing anything for me and definitely want to change it since i still have high anxiety and sleep problems... i was thinking about asking about remeron? trazodone?

edit:
plus the wellbutrin hasnt helped me stop smoking any, which is kinda annoying in itself :|
hope i can find some Rx that works, atleast for a few symptoms

[-jimi-]

Chantix made a friend of mine stop, and he was the last person on earth that could stop I thought. But I heard it can have bad side effects.

I can't see why you can't try those meds you mentioned, they are not addictive so docs seem OK with them.

[elevatedsoul]

aye, yeah chantix looks a bit scary for me i might have to put that one on the back burner, i have been thinking that if i get an e-cig i could control how much nicotine im intaking and eventually be nicotine free, if im not mistaken they have nicotine free fluid to use in them?
was also considering a patch but i dont know if that would work because i like to puff and i dont think you can puff a patch :P
smoking may be an impulse thing for me... because ill think about it and then it just gets stronger and stronger till i finally smoke one and i feel guilty about it afterwards or even during smoking it :/

;
i probably wouldnt have such a hard time quit smoking if i was feeling better