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Sep 27, 2014, 03:39 AM
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So I am prescribed valium as PRN and am finding that I am probably over using it at the moment. I did ask my GP but he did not answer my qst and tell me what my maxium was per day.. at the moment I am finding I am taking 10mg as needed throughout the day and a definate 20mg when I go to bed to help knock me out on top of prescribed night meds to keep me safe...
does that seem like an ok amount? or is it too much? I know it is not ideal to take it every night to help with sleep but I am really struggling right now and don't know what else to do!!!
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Sep 27, 2014, 05:21 AM
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At those dosages you risk becoming addicted/dependent on Valium and it will soon stop working for you but along with a return of your symptoms you will have major withdrawals if you don't keep increasing the dose. Everyone is different though but I would be careful if I was you. It also depends on why you take it. Take care
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Sep 27, 2014, 05:27 AM
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My psych prescribed prn valium for me about two years ago. He told me the way it works best is to use it for a week or two to reset my sleeping pattern then wean off it. I can go a two or three months before I take it again, and then only regularly for a week or two to reset my sleep pattern.
I know ive been warned several times that overuse will lessen its effectiveness and lead to dependacy which then means withdrawal symptoms when you dont take. I would be asking/talking to my psych/Doctor about your concerns and exploring other safer more long term options for your sleep etc. Hugs 
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Sep 28, 2014, 12:30 AM
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Thats the problem I asked my GP but he wouldnt give me an answer so I feel completely alone with this
 I am also on phenergan to help sleep but trying to not take as much as I am prescribed as it is making my asthma worse (I am having tests on wed) hence taking extra valium to help me sleep. I was quite tired last night so just took phenergan and my regular epilim and I had broken sleep and did not sleep well at all I dont know what to do!!!
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Sep 28, 2014, 12:32 AM
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Sep 29, 2014, 02:10 PM
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That seems like a high dose to me. If your pdoc doesn't have time for questions, maybe you need to see another.
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Sep 30, 2014, 03:06 AM
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I was cut off during my post. So I will summarize. 20 mg of diazepam= 1mg clonazepam. All pams are benzos. You need a competent doc. I would pick a pdooc for meds reductions of the class of benzodiazepines. You are good on two fronts. A slow reduction by a doc/pdoc will make it pretty comfortable and diazepam has a really long half life. Meaning it will take longer for it to be excreted from your body unlike alprazolam Xanax) . Which is generally used for acute panic attacks but a half life of around 11.5
I am going to try again to put the chart up: benzo.org.uk : Benzodiazepine Equivalence Table Okay, if you look at the half lives. The longer a half life= easier to reduce drug comfortably. Never cold turkey a benzo. please! Diazepam (Valium) 20-100 [36-200]= half life and it is higher than 20 unless you have took one 10=mg. So your 20 mg is going to have a longer half life but you will have to reduce slower. Higher the benzo. Slower the reduction. Compare to Xanax Alprazolam (Xanax, Xanor, Tafil) 6-12= half life 0.5= at .5 mg So it leaves the brain and body much quicker. Leading to possible issues more quickly. It gives the approximate amounts on the second panel. Again you need a competent pdoc, just to be safe and it won't take that long. Just try to reduce how often you take it until you see him/her. You don't wan't to ramp it up. I have seen people come off much higher doses and it can literally take close to a year. That is why it is used prn but many people find the relaxation taking more. You just need to nip it in the bud. Find a good competent doctor and it should go well. Let me see if I have any other charts: This ones good- Tables and wiki: Just scroll down for the chart but the text will be helpful- List of benzodiazepines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oct 01, 2014, 09:19 PM
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Worrying can be such a drag, and not knowing how things interact can risk safety. Really stinks that your physician cannot answer, such a seemingly simple question .  especially where you have asthma. I have read, that efficacy is reduced from this combination. Hence, a higher risk towards dependence on it. If it's just been a couple days, perhaps not much to worry over. 
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Oct 01, 2014, 09:29 PM
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Well, I am taking too much of it all... it is the only way I can cope.. I have chronic pain from being shot a year ago....
So I have Fioricet (which has a barbiturate in it) I take Klonopin Perococet and ambien... when I can't sleep or am having a panic attack I take t hem all together..... not good, but that's the best I can do to cope at the moment... I guess I will deal with the withdrawals someday but right not, It helps me get through the day and sleep at night... also take Mini Press at night.
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Oct 02, 2014, 05:43 AM
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Oct 04, 2014, 05:57 AM
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I used to take Valium. I was told 10 mg per day was the max.
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Oct 05, 2014, 07:31 PM
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Oct 14, 2014, 03:20 AM
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I was given 10mg 3 x day a few years ago when I was in hospital. Guess all doctors have different opinions on the matter.
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