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Old Nov 23, 2014, 05:20 PM
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I've always had a big fear of being on med. I know im pretty bad though when im not on them. I just don't know how to get over the fear/obsession with medication. The fear is so strong- because I read bad stuff about med and ppl against them/and so forth. But I do truly believe med can help a lot and help people function- so as you can see im torn..
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Dear infinite, sorry to hear you are sad now about whether you should do meds. Many people talk to their psychiatrist about that. Maybe there are meds well suited to your condition. There is a time and place for meds and if you have condition that responds well to meds then it makes sense to explore that.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 06:16 PM
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I've always had a big fear of being on med. I know im pretty bad though when im not on them. I just don't know how to get over the fear/obsession with medication. The fear is so strong- because I read bad stuff about med and ppl against them/and so forth. But I do truly believe med can help a lot and help people function- so as you can see im torn..
It really depends on how much it helps you and what side effects it has. You can read all kinds of stuff on the internet. All drugs have side effects and draw backs. Even vaccinating a baby and young children for all the immunizations have risks. I still made sure my daughter was vaccincated. The fact is millions of people take psyche meds everyday.
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I've always had a big fear of being on med. I know im pretty bad though when im not on them. I just don't know how to get over the fear/obsession with medication. The fear is so strong- because I read bad stuff about med and ppl against them/and so forth. But I do truly believe med can help a lot and help people function- so as you can see im torn..

I completely understand what you're going though! I have the same fears and they are so bad that I can't take antidepressants any more. I just get too many side effects and I start to get even more scared at that point and discontinue treatment. Granted the side effects are so bad that my doctor has taken me off meds completely at this point, but I know my fear has to play into it somehow. I even have fear with supplements but I also need meds so I am stuck in a similar situation for sure.

Since by pdoc said no more medicine I had to turn to supplements. I am trying Inositol right now for depression and anxiety and actually feel a little better in just the last 4 days of taking it but it's still scary I'm just pushing myself. I refuse to give up too soon!

I am not sure what to say to comfort you but maybe if you're afraid of meds there are supplements you can try?

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Note- I still take medication but im still afraid of going up on the dose and I read people say "med is unhealthy , u should do natural instead, med damage the brain" etc.. Scares me a Lot. Although ive been on med so long i dont think ill ever be complete off because of symptoms returning and not to mention terrible withdrawal. Med has helped me a decent amount though i must say even with the side effects
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This choice comes with almost everything we do.

Should I eat fish? Fish has type of fat many people lack. It also has mercury. Should I eat potatoes? It has a lot of vitamin C and fills you up on few calories, yet it is said to cause inflammation. Should I drink coffee? It can delay Alzheimer's but might cause upset stomach and nervousness. Should I cover a wound? It heals better without, but with it, I avoid dirt on it.

Should I take medication? Is it all bad? No. Can it help me? Yea. Do I have terrible side effects with mine? I have had with some but not my current. For me it's worth it.

Natural stuff can also come with sides. It can come with allergies, and all that grows is not healthy and harmless. Plant stuff go all the way from Chamomile through Cannabis to Opium. All natural. All good? Doubt it.
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Here is a good example of what happens. This happened yesterday. A PHD wrote an article in the British Medical Journal about flu vaccination making lots of claims and citing studies. There are lots of studies, probably all over the place.

Johns Hopkins Scientist Reveals Shocking Report on Flu Vaccines
Tons of media outlets reported on it with the same headlines.

Here is what John Hopkins actually says about it. The guy is not even with John Hopkins. It's overblown media hype.

The Facts About Johns Hopkins and Flu Shots | Johns Hopkins Medicine

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The Facts About Johns Hopkins and Flu Shots

A rumor circulating on various social media outlets attributes dubious claims about the influenza vaccine to “a Johns Hopkins scientist.”

Johns Hopkins Medicine in no way endorses an article published in July 2013 by a former fellow at our school of medicine questioning the validity of the annual flu vaccine. The writer has no scientific affiliation with Johns Hopkins, nor is he employed by any of the Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends everyone over the age of 6 months get vaccinated for influenza. At Johns Hopkins, we are confident that the benefits of the flu vaccine to individuals and to public health are very strong.

In an effort to protect our patients, Johns Hopkins Medicine mandates that its health care workers receive an annual influenza vaccination, assuming no personal allergies or medical conditions contraindicate it. Our vaccination rate is 97 percent. We encourage patients to discuss flu shots and any other immunizations with their primary care physician.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 12:13 PM
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I've always had a big fear of being on med. I know im pretty bad though when im not on them. I just don't know how to get over the fear/obsession with medication. The fear is so strong- because I read bad stuff about med and ppl against them/and so forth. But I do truly believe med can help a lot and help people function- so as you can see im torn..
Look at it this way. The chance that your depression will be helped by, say, increasing your Omega 3 fat intake is GREATER than the chance that your depression will be helped by antidepressant drugs. See, for example,

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118350

Given this, and given known side-effects of drugs, why not try the non-drug interventions first? See post #45 here

http://forums.psychcentral.com/depre...escaped-5.html

for more.

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Old Nov 24, 2014, 12:33 PM
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The OP doesn't mention depression or which med or meds. Your article only talks about a study they are going to do and no results and does not compare fish oil to anti depressants.

You might want to find a study that has been completed and more importantly find out what the OP's condition and meds are. InfiniteSadness says meds help but has an "unhealthy" fear. Maybe it is a healthy fear but it seems to me we should know what med they are talking about.

Fish oil has been shown to help some people with mild to moderate depression.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/faq-20058143


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[QUOTE=zinco14532323;4120759] Your article only talks about a study they are going to do and no results and does not compare fish oil to anti depressants.[/url]

Quoting from the article

The results among that experimental group impressed even Hibbeln. “The active group had reduced their suicidal thinking by 45 percent,” he said. “They reduced their depressive symptoms by 50 percent, reduced their perceptions of stress by 33 percent and increased their reports of a sense of happiness by 30 percent.”

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118350

For the dismal record of antidepressants, see, for example,

Why Antidepressants Don't Work for Treating Depression | Mark Hyman, MD

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Old Nov 24, 2014, 02:31 PM
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That study was 49 people in Ireland. I don't think DOD did that study. What are the results of the study of 350 people the article talks about?

I take fish oil Omega 3's. There is some good evidence but the studies are mixed from what I understand.

And again "Why Antidepressants Don't Work for Treating Depression" doesn't say a word about why they don't work. It only talks about the initial 6 to 8 week clinical trials which don't tell you much. What counts are the real world clinical practice results.

It still has nothing to do with InfiniteSadness's original post. He/she doesn't mention which med or meds. They said they are bad when not on them and that they help but they have a fear.

Shouldn't we know which med so we can discuss the evidence about possible harms. They already said they help and they are bad without. That is not the issue.
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@InfiniteSadness I would advise that you do your own research on whatever class of meds you are talking about. What does the scientific evidence say. What studies have been conducted. You can find lots of individual doctors with differing opinions. There are often conflicting studies. You might be left with what is the general consensus of the medical community and that consensus might be based on limited information.

Based on what is known now and the general medical consensus you have to make a rational decision about what beneficial effects vs what negative effects it has on you as an individual and the possible long term effects.

If you tell us which meds and the good and bad for you maybe we can help you sort it out.
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@InfiniteSadness I would advise that you do your own research on whatever class of meds you are talking about. What does the scientific evidence say. What studies have been conducted. You can find lots of individual doctors with differing opinions. There are often conflicting studies. You might be left with what is the general consensus of the medical community and that consensus might be based on limited information.

Based on what is known now and the general medical consensus you have to make a rational decision about what beneficial effects vs what negative effects it has on you as an individual and the possible long term effects.

If you tell us which meds and the good and bad for you maybe we can help you sort it out.
Hi, thanx all for advice. Zinco, one med i take is celexa. I dont know why im always so afraid of med. i guess im afraid of being depend on it for Everything. Also afraid id be in hosp without it.. You can Pm me also to talk. lot of fears..
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In the back of my mind, I sort of feel like I don't want to be taking medication or have worries and fears about what it is doing and setting me up for in the long-term, but I just try not to think about it.

I'm far from an advocate for taking medication at all costs, but I've been in situations, one very recently, where I wanted very much to be functional as soon as possible and taking medication seemed the best option. I guess the alternative scares me more than taking it. I don't know what the future will bring, but I know right now it seems these meds (Zoloft and Lamictal) are helping so I push everything else from my mind, you know.
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well, the fact is... meds are bad for your body. So if you take anything, you should have regular blood tests and such and try to live as healthily as possible.

that way you will minimalize the damage and can consider if it is worth it for you. it as well might. Line is, however... YOU feeling better. Not your doctor telling you how much "better" you are and that you just complain (cannot believe how often this occurs).
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