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Old 06-04-2021, 01:26 AM   #1
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So over the years Iíve been on and off Valium. Not a lot I would refill the prescription every couple of months or so. I would only use it in circumstances that were relatively extreme. With the tarditive dyskinesia that I am experiencing I had to go on Ativan. I took it three times a day. First she tried klonopin which didnít work. And right away after that she prescribed the Ativan. It was going well. I had a special dentist appointment the kind for some seriously intense procedures. Officially she is also considered a sedation dentist. But I wasnít looking for anything extremely serious. I told her the situation and she prescribed Valium. Five pills. And the only reason I took that instead of the Ativan is because I canít take more Ativan than prescribed in order to have this procedure. I have also been on Adderall for 15 years. and when we were trying to sleep medication I requested restoral which I didnít realize was also a benzo. And it didnít work.

Well I think it mustíve been the Valium that triggered something but she called me and said she could no longer prescribe me benzodiazepines. I told her exactly what was going on because obviously the doctors go into that database and will know exactly what youíre prescribed. I met with her yesterday for my Tele visit and we were talking and she said she was getting alerts and she values her license and does not want to risk it. She said she could no longer prescribe benzodiazepines as long as I was on Adderall. I couldnít figure it out I asked her if I canít have them now why was it that I could have them over the course of a manu years off and on? She suggested I take BuSpar three times a day.

Another thing is I am flying to Yellowstone towards the end of the month. Itís a 10 day vacation that my in-laws plan to celebrate for different things and it was rescheduled because of Covid. Iíve only flown twice in my life the last being 12 years ago. When I was on that flight I nearly had a panic attack and Iím already fidgety and claustrophobic. So I told her fine you donít have to prescribe me any benzodiazepines I was weaning off the Ativan(which she gave me no plan for and Iíve managed to do myself thank God Iím not addicted) after her hearing that anyway.

But I asked her for four or five pills of some kind of benzo for the flight. Again she reiterated she canít prescribe benzos. She mentioned getting an alert probably because I had so many things prescribed to me in a short amount of time.

I was very clear that there was no abuse or drug seeking behavior. I just wanted to make sure she didnít feel that was the issue. She assured me that no, it had nothing to do with abuse or diversion or drug seeking. It was purely about Alerts and her license.

What I think Iím going to do is make an appointment with my primary next week to talk about medication. Iím going to explain everything regarding the recent benzos and Iím going to talk to her about my flying anxiety. In addition to the anxiety with the tardive dyskinesia and fidgeting from ADHD it could be a nightmare for anyone next to me. iím going to ask her for between four and six pills. Two for going and two for coming back and maybe two so one or the other could be taken as an extra. Iím really hoping itís not an issue. I printed out my itinerary for both trips that Iím taking to prove they are legit. and faxed it to my psychiatrist because I will be requesting slightly early refills for Adderall. i plan on bringing that paperwork with me to the primary. What is your experience in a situation like this? Has it been easy to get a doctor or a primary to give you four or five pills for a legitimate condition and legitimate flight?
If your psychiatrist has all of a sudden decided not to prescribe certain medications, or youíve had to ask about medication for a flight is that totally unusual? Do you think asking for 4 to 6 pills is going to make me seem like a drug seeker?

Itís so frustrating. How are we supposed to try out medication and see if they work if it flags some system and the doctors get scared? Itís not like Iím requesting opiates or a large prescription enough to sell, itís just something normal. But apparently when you prescribe amphetamines and I guess multiple benzodiazepines over a certain amount of time, something gets flagged to alert the physician and I guess too many alerts is bad? Or maybe even getting one is bad? anyone have experience with that either?

Overall Iím basically asking if youíve had an easy time getting a few pills for flights? Has your doctor taking of the answers for the same reason as mine?
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Old 06-04-2021, 10:56 AM   #2
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I'm genuinely sorry for you. This anti-benzo crusade...they can kiss my azz.


As for flying, I have no experience with using a benzo for it. I've flown a lot, but I'm not a nervous flyer. Perhaps ask your GP for only 4 pills? That seems quite harmless. I hope she will prescribe them for you; it would be cruel of her not to.
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I am on two benzo's xanax and restoril. The pharmacy looks at me like I have three heads when I go to refill them. It is a shame what drug seekers have done to us that really need these meds. I hope you are able to get the pills that you need for your trip. I would think that it would not be a problem because it is a reasonable request.
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I'm sorry you're dealing with this. The anti-benzo push really pisses me off. I'm lucky my prescriber is will to still prescribe them for me, although we are weaning me off them slowly. Hope you can get some help from your GP.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It's complete unneeded torture that you're going through. You're not drug seeking at all - I'm on a stimulant and I get dissociative (Depersonalization/derealization) psychedelic flashback panic attacks and rarely needed a 1-3 benzos to kill the episodes. These have been happening for 4-5 years and have nothing to do with the stimulant - Completely unrelated.

Last year was particularly bad and I was taking alprazolam that I bought online because I wanted to be in control in case my doctor stopped prescribing lorazepam - I told him this and I mentioned diazepam to taper so he did. I was also prescribed 5x temazepam to help me sleep if the zopiclone didn't work. I then successfully tapered off.

Eventually I was hospitalized because I was too dissociated in the summer of 2020 and the unfamiliarity caused a severe panic attack which lasted for 5 hours and stopped by diazepam and 5mg of olanzepine. They wanted to put me on 0.5mg of clonazepam twice a day but I saw the emergency psychiatrist and he prescribed 10mg olanzepine which stopped the dissociation (Thus, stopping the panic attacks). I only now take a 0.25mg clonazepam once a week or so if I have a hard time sleeping. I still take the stimulant - I was prescribed a sleep med because I had insomnia and anxiety even when I wasn't on the stimulant. The panic attacks were complete ego deaths and horrible as they could get but I only had one in the past 6 months.

I don't think it's the drug users that caused a problem for non drug-seekers but instead the drug war itself. People should have the choice to use anything as long as they're educated about the risks or are supervised by a professional doctor. Regulations shouldn't be telling doctors what to do unless they aren't trained properly - That's the reasonable solution to the problem - Not punishing people that use (They're gonna use drug regardless of if they are illegal or not) - Especially punishing patients that aren't drug seekers.
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I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It's complete unneeded torture that you're going through. You're not drug seeking at all - I'm on a stimulant and I get dissociative (Depersonalization/derealization) psychedelic flashback panic attacks and rarely needed a 1-3 benzos to kill the episodes. These have been happening for 4-5 years and have nothing to do with the stimulant - Completely unrelated.

Last year was particularly bad and I was taking alprazolam that I bought online because I wanted to be in control in case my doctor stopped prescribing lorazepam - I told him this and I mentioned diazepam to taper so he did. I was also prescribed 5x temazepam to help me sleep if the zopiclone didn't work. I then successfully tapered off.

Eventually I was hospitalized because I was too dissociated in the summer of 2020 and the unfamiliarity caused a severe panic attack which lasted for 5 hours and stopped by diazepam and 5mg of olanzepine. They wanted to put me on 0.5mg of clonazepam twice a day but I saw the emergency psychiatrist and he prescribed 10mg olanzepine which stopped the dissociation (Thus, stopping the panic attacks). I only now take a 0.25mg clonazepam once a week or so if I have a hard time sleeping. I still take the stimulant - I was prescribed a sleep med because I had insomnia and anxiety even when I wasn't on the stimulant. The panic attacks were complete ego deaths and horrible as they could get but I only had one in the past 6 months.

I don't think it's the drug users that caused a problem for non drug-seekers but instead the drug war itself. People should have the choice to use anything as long as they're educated about the risks or are supervised by a professional doctor. Regulations shouldn't be telling doctors what to do unless they aren't trained properly - That's the reasonable solution to the problem - Not punishing people that use (They're gonna use drug regardless of if they are illegal or not) - Especially punishing patients that aren't drug seekers.

I agree. Itís like theyíre so afraid because of the nonsense when it comes to regulations, Alerts, and paperwork, they put their licenses and concerns over patient care. Iím not saying their license isnít important. And Iím not saying they havenít had patience and Iíve done some really shady stuff. But my history of 17 years under the care of various psychiatrists should prove otherwise. Ironically my other doctor had no problem prescribing me an antipsychotic that I didnít need for years and years how come thatís not a problem ?

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My doctor is weird and he keeps increasing my Xanax even though I donít ever ask him to. But the last doctor I had didnít like benzos and it was all of a sudden because I had been on Ativan for a number of years. But I remember one time I was out and my insurance wouldnít pay for a couple more days or something so my primary doctor prescribed me about 4 to get me to my next refill. I may have paid cash I donít really remember. There was just an issue with it being filled by my psychiatrist.
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My pdoc encourages me to take Klonopin. It's me who wants to eventually go off of it, because I'm terrified that whenever I see a different pdoc the person will abruptly pull me off of it. The entire benzo thing is a freaking MESS. And it burns me, because when I was first prescribed Klonopin in 1986 I was told it was a very safe drug with no bad side effects, and easy to stop taking. It makes me wonder about the validity of the meds prescribed for mental health issues. Like you said, Sarah - why prescribe an AP for anxiety, which is so much more dangerous than a benzo?
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Regarding anxiety when flying, in the past when I had nausea when taking a ferry, I was able to get a prescription for anti-nausea medication specifically for when on some type of boat, and this medication made me very drowsy. This was great as I was able to nap and feeling nausea was not an issue at all. Maybe look into asking for anti-nausea medication that also causes drowsiness. The anti-nausea medication was called meclizine.
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Yeah my doctor prescribes me benzos. Rightfully, and with my consent, he and I want to get me off of them because I think they cause some of the tiredness I experience. But he still will prescribe them PRN. I don't understand the thing about the alerts or whatever. I mean, once with my psychiatrist, I had thrown out my benzos (completely my fault and I owned up to it), but he prescribed me more because I was honest with him. Anyway, that obviously is a different situation than yours. I was very grateful for my psychiatrist for understanding that benzos are serious s*** and the decision to take them or not should not be taken lightly. I know some psychiatrists or psychiatric nurse practitioners refuse to prescribe benzos though. Which is ridiculous. Why not keep it as an option in the arsenal of psych meds? I mean are they going to go after antidepressants next? To me it just seems like psychiatrists who refuse to prescribe benzos just have not done their due diligence on benzos and their effects. They can help at times. Not to mention that you're asking for 6 or fewer pills. Honestly, your psychiatrist has caused you more anxiety, it seems, rather than actively trying to reduce your anxiety. I am sorry for the situation - it sounds very stressful.
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