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Heart Nov 12, 2023 at 12:03 AM
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Hi, guys !

Just wondering if you know any medicine that is otc and is an effective replacement for clonazepam (klonopin). Also, any clinic in washington state area, preferably seattle and surroundings that is doing serious clininc experiments with mdma ?
Tia !
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Default Nov 14, 2023 at 10:47 PM
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Post a separate question with "mdma clinical experiments" in the title.

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Default Nov 15, 2023 at 09:50 PM
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Gabapentin helps me with anxiety. I haven't gotten off klonopin yet (life interferes when I try, it seems) but gabapentin greatly reduces my anxiety and I choose it over klonopin for my PRN.

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An OTC antihistamine, clorpheniramine, can substitute well for an SNRI and anxiolytic. Walmart has it as a generic for very cheap. I wouldn't recommend diphenhydramine (Benadryl) because it's very anticholinergic and can cause profound weight gain.

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I have read also that very anticholinergic drugs eventually can make someone more predisposed to dementia. Only after prolonged use, though.

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I have read also that very anticholinergic drugs eventually can make someone more predisposed to dementia. Only after prolonged use, though.
That's what I've read too. Whether it's true or not I don't know, but just to be safe, I try to steer clear of them.

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My current psychiatrist doesn't prescribe them for this reason.

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Xanax is the shortest acting benzo around 4 hrs. Klonopin is the longest acting benzo and stays in your body for like 19 hrs. No one likes to use Ativan anymore. I've taken Ativan 1mg in the ER for acute anxiety many times and I took 6mg Ativan for my agitation but when I was inpatient at Johns Hopkins they didn't want me taking it due to addiction I guess so they stopped it. There really are no other choices. I told a lousy Dr in Baltimore that my anxiety and panic attacks were severe and she said "Have you made friends with your anxiety?" and couldn't believe it so I never went back to her!

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