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#1
I'm not privy -- nor do I need to be-- to postee's backgrounds ... however, I would definitely seek out a professional opinion (psychologist?) if I were holding blame for something that others could see a different view. It could be I am in error, or not, but being personally involved would automatically, for me, mean I might not be rational about it.
Even when everyone holds the same view, there can still be cognitive distortions. TC __________________ |
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thank you for posting this. it helps a lot.
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Shadowghost, JD only needs to know what JD wants/needs to know. Your guilt is literally yours and true, no one can discuss with you seeing it a different way if you do not want to. But, your pronouncement of guilt on yourself does not mean other people have to see you that way, whether you want them to or not.
The meaning of words is not absolute, their purpose is only to help two people understand and communicate with one another; if the people cannot agree on what the words mean, they're pretty useless. Your view of murder may or may not be mine but the relationship would not stop for me with the actual murderous act and your belief or knowledge that you are a murderer. If your brother was attacking you, trying to hurt you when you murdered him, that is very different from if you took a knife and said, "Gee, I think I'll murder my brother now." In either event, I would not be so concerned with blaming you for the death of your brother as in understanding how it came about and what you and I would like to do with our relationship next, as a result. __________________ "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius |
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Perna, you missed the point I was trying to make. But it's useless to try to explain things.
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__________________ Now if thou would'st When all have given him o'er From death to life Thou might'st him yet recover -- Michael Drayton 1562 - 1631 |
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I shared that so ask this: What might be a distorted way of thinking be that is an ideological construct that works as a defense mechanism? (this is distressing for me because I don't want to think so rigidly and don't think rigidly in other areas or about other issues) |
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Reward Fallacy -You expect all your sacrifices and self-denial to be rewarded. You feel bitter if good deeds are not reciprocated. You may always be doing the right thing but your heart`s not in it. God/ the universe is not keeping score! And you are physically and emotionally draining yourself. Being Right- . You feel the need to prove that your opinions /actions are correct. You can`t stand being wrong and you will go to any lengths to prove your `rightness`. This can make you hard of hearing as you are not interested in the possible truth of a different opinion. Your need to be right trumps your having an honest and caring relationship. Global Labeling - You generalize one or two qualities in yourself and others into a sweeping negative global judgement despite evidence to the contrary. This makes for a one-dimensional world view. Labeling yourself can injure your self esteem and stereo-typing others leads to snap-judgements, prejudice and relationship issues. Fallacy of Change- You feel people will change to suit you, if you pressure or cajole them enough. Your need to change people is anchored in the mistaken belief that your happiness depends solely on them. The reality is that the only hope you have of changing anyone is you! Your happiness, you believe depends on the actions of others when in fact, it depends on the zillions of choices you make daily. Fallacy of Fairness - According to our rules we have the expectation the world will play fair. And then disappointment sets in or deep resentment when others fail to live up to our expectations. While morality is based on ethical principles, for some people, it is situational.( ie Thou shalt not kill but it`s perfectly reasonable on a battle field...) If you cannot let go of unfair situations, you may wind up consumed with resentment, leaving you very bitter. You may even believe that other people`s ignoring of `your rules`of fairness, is a personal affront to you. This stance will only leave you spinning your wheels for a long time. I think many of us wrestle with that last one-I know I do! __________________ "And Oz never gave a thing to the Tin Man, that he didn't, didn't already have." America's Tin Man (1974) "Find happiness-then catch & release!" |
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I'm odd... I do the top of reacting and I do th bottom with examining.... Depends on my day I guess
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Hmm... I will look this over, thank you.
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#12
This certainly describes a lot of what I'm going through.
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#13
I hope it helps.
Since the information comes from the book by David Burns, just be sure to give him credit when you do copy it. And there's more good stuff in the book, should you wish to check it out from the library or buy it. TC __________________ |
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You assume that your negative emotions necessarily reflect the way things really are: "I feel it, therefore it must be true."
This one is a lot how I get at times when depressed or overly critical. It can be confused with intuition which I try and listen to now. I see it can be definately colored. Sometimes I think my negative emotions are indeed the truth. I have to work on this! __________________ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich The road to hell is paved with good intentions. "And psychology has once again proved itself the doofus of the sciences" Sheldon Cooper |
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yeah, same here. I need to listen more to some of the negative feelings I have and not push them aside. Sometimes they are there to warn me. __________________ Glory to heroes!
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Thanks so much for this,
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thank you for posting this! As soon as I looked in at the list I zoomed in onto number 2. I thought that I was always just over sensitive because everything upsets me even though I'm very good at hiding it.
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simple and clear
i like how you numbered then and then referenced below. not overwhelming. thanks __________________ |
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#20
Well said!
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