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I've been amazed by the overwhelming number of painful posts by clients who were abandoned by a T. I suffered this devastating betrayal about 5 years ago and identified with so many poster's experience anonymity here gives therapists an opportunity to answer some of the big questions and to tell the other side of the story without fear I'm one of the many who, years later continue to struggle and be left with confusion and significant trust problems. I urge the (sizeable group of) therapists who make up the other side of this equation to help us all out. answer that hanging "why?" and even your own pain if you felt it. this isn't an ethical inquiry so please bypass the urge to "make your case" or respond with the "right" answers. you're off the record so tell it true I think both sides can benefit We can try to learn and heal as we start a dialogue that is needed if we are to address the fact that a disturbingly high number of former therapy clients have been harmed
Sadly, my experience has prevented me from seeking help I was given the explicit impression that I could trust my therapist I was promised a great deal of loyalty and honesty My therapist spent 2 years telling me things that one day (without warning or explanation) suddenly meant nothing we had a close knit relationship one day and then she sent an em to ail basically I got half-assed, embarrassingly over-vague "explanation" that practically screamed "blah, blah...load of crap...***-covering list of a few referrals....blah, blah... gesture of condescending lack of regard for you" I never got any answers and my requests for closure were met with a cold, poorly veiled angry string of useless remarks that presumably had some value in service to someone other than me. rather than any useful info I walked away of a 2 year old relationship completely broken and a bonus kick to the gut in the form of a declaration of "no further communication" if you are asking yourself, "what horrible thing did this person do to his therapist?" (because I sure as hell wanted to know).... that question was never even acknowledged How do I even begin to consider therapy now? it was the worst experience of my life I spent a small fortune to be damaged deeply. My life remains significantly diminished REACH OUT AND ENCOURAGE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION TO COME TO THE TABLE I wish I could offer my former therapist a seat at the table... just one of many anonymous voices. But I cant use her name I can only hope that this post will make its way to a place in Texas where they serve heaps of Italian? or maybe Latvian? concoctions |
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Sadly most therapists will protect the dysfunctional profession they belong to. It is their livelihood after all. And people who believe they have decent therapists defend the profession I think because they want to not believe the same terrible things could happen to them.
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I have experienced 2 therapists 'abandonments' and my current therapist doesn't understand them either, in fact she is quite appalled at my previous therapists.
Like you, my first one, many years ago was one of the most difficult things I've gone thru. And like you it last nearly 5 years, until I meant therapist-number-2 -who-abandoned-me. The 2nd abandoment was a little more understandable, but she handled it horribly. As I indicated above, my current therapist has been wonderful about understanding and empathizing with my grief. She truly gets how important these previous relationships were to me and can't believe how it all transpired. Unfortunately I worry my new T will 'turn' just as the others had, but we're trying to work thru it __________________ wheeler Last edited by wheeler; Apr 08, 2016 at 08:32 AM.. |
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I worry too that any new T would "turn"
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I am new here too but felt moved to weigh in. I had a terribly abusive and manipulative therapist who took me down a dark path. This person was far sicker than i ever was andhas a serious personality disorder. The story is similiar to what others have experienced. It still pains me even after allthese years - and honestly, it always will. Having said that, i now also have a very good one. I think people become therapists with good intentions, although some are misguided and/or very sik themselves. The pain of being betrayed is beyond belief. But, that betrayal perpetrated is not special to some therapists. It happens often, whether it be teachers, doctors, pastors etc. People in authority are entrusted with others care - people who are vulnerable. Betrayal is, unfortunately more
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I've seen 5 Ts and none of them turned on me or abandoned me. I hope it isn't as common as one would think after reading this forum. I think it is terrible! Is it that those with reputable Ts don't have a need to post while those with bad experiences want and need support? That's understandable to me. I also would like to hear from the Ts who read and/or post here. What do you think of these accounts of therapists' apparent cruelty to their clients? Are there any reliable statistics about how often it happens? I would think not, since Ts seem to blame their clients and don't take responsibility for their actions. I think it's appalling the way those in a helping profession have acted. I'm not talking about sexual abuse, though that's horrible too.
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It is a job for them. Clients are not that interesting or special for the most part. The therapist is often more unique to the client than vice versa. I don't think it matters whether they care or not. But even if one of them does care as general proposition, it is not going to keep them from being self-protective, or focussed on career changes, or their own life and if a client does not fit into that - the client is going to be a client of theirs no longer. I think the problem often comes from clients being lead to believe the illusion that it is not a job for those guys.
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The T who turned on me who I've posted about never said how deeply he cares for his clients or anything along those lines
I don't think your T will ever turn on you (The other t who I've briefly posted about I think did care more than the other one, she didn't turn in the same callous way that he did...) Quote:
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My T and I have discussed the "am I just your job" question many times. Yes, we agree that I'm her job, but I'm not "just" her job. If she would close her practice or move away, she's not going to forget me. She said we could still email if that were the case. We're not friends but that doesn't make our relationship less. I pay her half of her going rate and she is no less caring than if I paid her more. I wish I could clone my T and give her to everyone who has a horrible T!!
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Good to have choices. I see therapists who admit it.
It also, from their literature, seems they see a difference in what they think clients should take literally versus figuratively. So a therapist says "I won't leave you" and means within a reasonable set of circumstances and the client means ever. For me, I can't imagine why it would be useful to have a therapist remember me after I quit them. I don't think they will and can't come up with a reason why they would. OP - I think if therapists decry the practice when talking to clients and justify it when talking to each other. __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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I think part of the problem is T's who say they love their clients, will never leave them, care deeply for them, will always be there etc etc. No one can possibly make those kind of commitments to people who are part of their working lives. Eg my T may care very much for me, In fact I believe she does, but we both know the relationship could end at our next session if something changes for me, or her life changes (eg significant health problems, bereavement, death, employment) I won't still be part of her life nor will she be part of mine. I know she would always try to end sensitively and responsibly but I also know that may not be within her control. We've both been clear about that from the start and 2.5 years later, im still clear about it.
Yes T's have a professional duty to do no harm, of course they do, and working with vulnerable people means they need to take greater care. There are T's where I've read accounts of what has happened and thought "wtf", there are equally times where I think people seem to demand more from their T than they would from any other relationship, particularly any other professional relationship. I'm not sure how a T negotiates those kinds of needs without someone getting hurt tbh. |
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I've have several t's and a couple have "turned on me" but looking back it was for the best. They weren't able to help me. And while it hurt a lot, I can see now that it was for the best.
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She also has said that the therapy relationship, while different, is sometimes deeper and more intimate than a friendship. |
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I think this kind of thing happens far too often (really, even once is too many for the clients on the receiving end), but I don't think it happens in most cases (but that is no consolation if you were the case where it did happen).
I have never been dumped by a therapist, nor have I felt abandoned. I have had therapy have to end with two therapists because either they or I moved, but I never considered that at all abandonment. My therapists never promised they would be there for me forever, nor would I have ever expected them to be -- that's unrealistic. They did say they would be supportive and work with me so long as our work took, barring obvious circumstances such as job moves, retirement, death (honestly, they didn't have to say that; those kinds of circumstances seem obviously apparent to me in all things). |
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As an adult, rational me knew very well we weren't having therapy six feet under, and i'm sure my soul was going to be in hell and hers in heaven. Though for me if I invested in our relationship it would feel like abandonment no matter how it ended, except for mutual termination. |
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