[Thalassophile]

I've been wondering a few things lately and was thinking there are perhaps many on here who can answer my questions. I've seen some people mention their T's do student supervision. What does this involve? Do they discuss cases?
Some have also said that their T's consult with other therapists. What does this usually involve? T's sitting around a table discussing some issues that they need help with?
Also, some people mention that their T''s are going through their own therapy and whilst not compulsory the 'better' T's continually work on themselves which I agree with. If they can better understand themselves no doubt they are able to provide better therapy. Am I right in presuming that they would generally only bring up stuff from their own work as a therapist when consulting with other therapists? Do they talk about cases with supervision students or is it only cases the students are working with?

So many questions...

Deleted because I don’t feel safe on this site anymore.
People seem to pick through everything I say with a fine tooth comb so goodbye- I am outta here

But what if the girl drinking and "seeing fellas behind her back" is a reaction to emotional abuse?
Mine was.

[Echos Myron redux]

Mona are you seriously writing about your clients issues on this site? Seriously, don't.

OP: Supervision is a place for the therapist to explore their work with their supervisor to ensure they are accountable and working in the interests of the client. I anonymise my clients in supervision so it's not about my clients issues per se, it's about me and the way I'm working. It is a safeguard to keep myself and my clients safe in the work and it also helps me to learn and become a better therapist.
In the UK, supervision is compulsary no matter how experienced you are. My therapist has 40 years experience and has two supervisors. I am grateful he has somebody to explore countertransference etc with so it doesn't negatively impact on my therapy.

Originally Posted by Mouse_62

But what if the girl drinking and "seeing fellas behind her back" is a reaction to emotional abuse?

Mine was.

Yes, it likely is Mouse.

Originally Posted by monalisasmile

Yes, it likely is Mouse.

But you seem to feel your supervisor would be wrong to report it so took it to one that wouldn't act. I'm confused.
Young children have list their life's because parents were believed and action wasn't taken.
Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Mouse_62

But you seem to feel your supervisor would be wrong to report it so took it to one that wouldn't act. I'm confused.

Young children have list their life's because parents were believed and action wasn't taken.

Just a thought.

I don’t have a choice which supervisor to bring it to. You are only hearing what you want to hear.
I only gave a short example of two different supervisors way of working Mouse not all of the facts

Originally Posted by monalisasmile

I don’t have a choice which supervisor to bring it to. You are only hearing what you want to hear.
I only gave a short example of two different supervisors way of working Mouse not all of the facts

You've deleted your post and changed your story.

Originally Posted by Mouse_62

You've deleted your post and changed your story.

Yes, I deleted my post but did not change my story

Originally Posted by Mouse_62

You've deleted your post and changed your story.

Yes, I deleted my post because I feel like you and certain others on here are determined to catch me out or pick on every little thing I say so good bye- not engaging with this site anymore!

My story did not change and you see what you want to see in every-bodies posts.

Originally Posted by monalisasmile

Yes, I deleted my post because I feel like you and certain others on here are determined to catch me out or pick on every little thing I say so good bye- not engaging with this site anymore!

My story did not change and you see what you want to see in every-bodies posts.

Hhhhmmm. Thought we were engaging with what you posted. It was quite shocking what you posted. On many levels.
Stay. Y I u may learn something about yourself.

It was shocking to you what I posted, my story did not change so what did you see that shocked you?
Also, here we are again disagreeing, arguing, not seeing eye to eye, whatever you want to call it.
I know you don’t agree with everything i post, now so I agree with everything you post but I try to stay with what I know and nor what I perceive to be happening.

[Echos Myron redux]

Originally Posted by monalisasmile

Yes, I deleted my post because I feel like you and certain others on here are determined to catch me out or pick on every little thing I say

Well it's a shame that your reason for deleting wasn't because you realised how unethical it was to post it. I don't have any intention to pick on you, but posting significant and potentially identifying information about a client is just crossing a line.

Originally Posted by Echos Myron (again)

Well it's a shame that your reason for deleting wasn't because you realised how unethical it was to post it. I don't have any intention to pick on you, but posting significant and potentially identifying information about a client is just crossing a line.

Isn’t it great you are such a perfect therapist and would never discuss your clients on here. What I posted was not identifiable. I think you know that but by pointing out my flaws and my mistakes makes you feel good. Well done. What a great therapist you are!

Originally Posted by Echos Myron (again)

Well it's a shame that your reason for deleting wasn't because you realised how unethical it was to post it. I don't have any intention to pick on you, but posting significant and potentially identifying information about a client is just crossing a line.

Again, these are presumptions made by you about me. Kindly that your superior attitude to your fabulous supervisor and even better therapist for examination!

Oh Mona. Seriously. Lol

Thallisopile, so sorry that this thread has been derailed. That was never my attention by posting my post. Hopefully it can back to what you intended it to be about.

[Echos Myron redux]

I am not a perfect therapist (oxymoron) but not posting about your clients is page one of how to be a therapist. I am pointing out the mistake in order to prompt you to delete it which thankfully you did. I'm don't have any investment in you as a person and my sole interest was in calling out your basic violation of your vulnerable client's confidentiality in the hope you would rectify it for their sake. If I found my therapist writing about me like that, even anonymously, it would be unforgivable and complaint-worthy.

[Echos Myron redux]

I too am sorry about the derailment OP. I hope the answer I gave in my first post was helpful anyway.

[ChickenNoodleSoup]

Sorry to interrupt, I'll try to answer some of OPs questions.

I have no idea what is involved in supervising students. I also don't know whether my current T ever consults other Ts or is in therapy and so on. But the last T I saw for a while before this told me that usually the whole office gets together once a week and discusses issues from session. Of course they try to make it confidential, but Ts sometimes need input from others, advice on how to handle something and so on. Also, sometimes something a client says will stay with a T in a way it should not (it's their job, they should not think about a client 24/7). In that case they will usually also bring it up in their own therapy.

So they kind of seem to talk about clients, but without identifying the client. Just saying "X causes issues for me, how do I deal with that", or asking for advice for treatment.

Originally Posted by Echos Myron (again)

I am not a perfect therapist (oxymoron) but not posting about your clients is page one of how to be a therapist. I am pointing out the mistake in order to prompt you to delete it which thankfully you did. I'm don't have any investment in you as a person and my sole interest was in calling out your basic violation of your vulnerable client's confidentiality in the hope you would rectify it for their sake. If I found my therapist writing about me like that, even anonymously, it would be unforgivable and complaint-worthy.

But yet you assumed I deleted it for another reason. Those are quite strong assumptions about mr as a person and a therapist.
You know they were not identifiable details and also it was an example of how different supervisors work, it may or may not have been a real client but yet you were willing to point out what you perceived as a wrong in order to make yourself superior and a better therapist.
If that makes you feel good fine but let’s not blow this outta proportion to blow your own trumpet.

[Echos Myron redux]

Obviously not that sorry about the derailment then 🙄 if you wish to continue this debate start a thread and I will happily explain how seemingly innocuous details can be potentially identifiable. I'm not debating it any further here.

[unaluna]

Hey leave me outta this, i didnt say anything and im not waiting to pounce on anybody. I learned my lesson.

[Thalassophile]

Originally Posted by Echos Myron (again)

Mona are you seriously writing about your clients issues on this site? Seriously, don't.

OP: Supervision is a place for the therapist to explore their work with their supervisor to ensure they are accountable and working in the interests of the client. I anonymise my clients in supervision so it's not about my clients issues per se, it's about me and the way I'm working. It is a safeguard to keep myself and my clients safe in the work and it also helps me to learn and become a better therapist.
In the UK, supervision is compulsary no matter how experienced you are. My therapist has 40 years experience and has two supervisors. I am grateful he has somebody to explore countertransference etc with so it doesn't negatively impact on my therapy.

That's really good that supervision is compulsory in the UK no matter how experienced you are! Makes sense and must be very helpful for therapist and their clients. Does anyone know if it is the same in North America?

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by Thalassophile

That's really good that supervision is compulsory in the UK no matter how experienced you are! Makes sense and must be very helpful for therapist and their clients. Does anyone know if it is the same in North America?

I know it's not the same in the US. My current T (he's been in practice 17 years) does not get supervision, but he meets regularly with a consulting group of other T's so they can discuss cases. And I know he's consulted individually with another T on cases, too (I know this because it was my ex-marriage counselor with whom he was consulting, as they used to work together and both work with teens). And in my ex-MC/ex-T's practice, they had a weekly clinical meeting, where they could discuss difficult cases. But no actual supervision.

I know supervision is required when a T is in training, like a psychologist (PhD) or social worker (LCSW) would need a certain number of hours of supervised sessions. And I think they have to do their own therapy as part of training. But to my knowledge, it's not continuous throughout their careers like in the UK.