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#141
No one here did this to themself.
Though it's true we seek what we need, the problems happen when the therapist doesn't know how to recognize and manage their own transferences and then engage with your patterns. Outside of therapy, you might expect it, but not with therapists. They are supposed to recognize these dynamics and deal with them appropriately before the consequences become catostrophic. It's not the client's fault. I realize you have your own perspective, but it's sad to see some you blaming yourself. |
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I absolutely despise those reality checks when I see i am in therapy alone, that the minute I decide to stop it stops, that it only works if i make it work, that she (or most therapist) would never reach out and when I want attention it feels so dirty and manipulative. Maybe i dont like feeling responsible for my life? I really don't want you play the victim or blame her |
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How come you write her all these emails but cannot really face her with all that you have written? It's complicated for me to understand. What is your reason for not asking her at the beginning of a session "so, what do you say to my emails?", or something along that line. Would you describe yourself as very timid in all real life, person-to-person interactions? Or only when you're in love? Because if you would describe yourself as timid, my next question is, is it one of your goals to overcome your timidity? What are your goals? (If any of the above sounds brash, provocative or challenging, it's not meant to. I am very much on your side, and really curious.) Last edited by Poiuytl; May 21, 2019 at 07:09 PM.. |
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#144
"when I want attention it feels so dirty and manipulative"
this is also a curious statement. You are paying for her attention. If you were focussing your attention on her, that would be perceived by her as manipulative... It is part of her training to remain a mystery to you. |
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#147
Are you traumatized?
Or do you think you have some form of personality disorder, or are you diagnosed with one? (Sorry if these questions are either intrusive or stupid. Again, I am just curious.) |
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#148
Would you like to be assertive? More aggressive?
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#149
Of course.. how about the inability to express my thoughts? Thats one of my 'defects'. It all makes sense in my head, slightly less sense when i put it on paper/or type it up and no sense when i want to talk about it.
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#150
No to all of those. Not been through trauma or have a diagnosis and i really don't think i have a personality disorder nor has any ever been mentined to me be anyone.
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#151
That is the interesting point. By the way, when I talk, and I talk a lot, people immediately lose me. Or I them. Only my therapist, who I yesterday ended the therapy with, claimed that my long-winded explanations made perfect sense to her. I really like her, but I would like to learn to talk less, and with more contact-functionality.
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#152
Which, as I understand it, means to only talk when you can rely on people wanting to listen. And end before they lose that ability.
Are you generally loquacious, or more the quiet type? |
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#153
I am not quiet or shy, quite outspoken with most things (i see myself this way). I think i want someone like your therapist who will try to make sense of what im trying to communicate. Emails are cowardly but its a way to slow down and get thoughts together.
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#154
I am sure you could find someone like her. But, and this is referring to the tenor of the thread, I think: what's the point of being understood by your therapist? What is the personal benefit for you?
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#155
Sorry, I must stop asking questions...
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#157
Personal message, I guess - or opening a new thread.
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Maybe she doesn't see that as her job? Only to be a tree, and then your feelings, and actions, come up on their own? But years and years of that didn't help me -- there needed to be some others, to be with me, to witness me, something. . .I'm not sure exactly what. For me, it has something to do with boundaries and being a person and being a separate person with some other separate persons. . .very hard to describe. And maybe very hard for therapy to try to help with. But they need to do a better job, IMO. None of that helps you right now, though. Your T's responses are her responses. It sucks they are so unsatisfactory. |
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