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#641
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Hugs, LT. I was feeling something similar last night - a bunch of doomsday thoughts tumbling over each other in my head. As soon as it was daylight though I was able to battle back the thoughts thankfully, and was back to feeling hopeful again before L texted to cancel. Now I'm just worried that she has covid again... Back to my hat, so I can not think about anything but my crocheting! |
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#642
Hugs back, Artie. Sorry you're also dealing with some doomsday thoughts... I hope that L just has some other illness (there are plenty going around) or ate something that didn't agree with her. I know you're in a weird place with her now--but could you maybe email her in a couple days to say you hope she's feeling better? Assuming she is, that could potentially give you some reassurance. But I'd also understand your not wanting to check in (I feel like I was really annoying Dr. T when he got back from his trip, had some symptoms, and worried he had Covid, but he seemed fine and understanding about it).
But perhaps best to focus on the hat! I need to find other things to focus on...I feel I should go back to painting (and have discussed it with Dr. T--he's greatly in favor of it), but it just seems like so much effort to get all the materials out, to know I'll likely get disrupted by D (she doesn't go to bed much earlier than me), to know I'll have to clean it all up, etc. I suppose I could go back to working on my therapy memoir. It came up recently with Dr. T that I hadn't been working on it, and he said he was disappointed because he was looking forward to seeing his name in the acknowledgments. Maybe I should try to learn to crochet? I've also thought about drawing, which doesn't require setup and cleanup. Or maybe going back to poetry? |
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I'm not going to worry about the new variant yet. It was only found on Tuesday. It seems more transmissible so far, but that doesn't mean more lethal than the original COVID, and it's not yet known how well the vaccines work against it. No one seems seriously ill from the new one (yet), and the idea behind mRNA vaccines is that they can be adapted pretty easily, within months if need be. __________________ The secret to eternal youth is arrested development.—Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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Writing my way through...
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#644
Hat is done! That was fun. See how curly my hair gets when it's short?
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#646
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I agree on the normal being what you make of it thing. I've already come to accept that Covid is likely not ever going to completely go away. And hopefully it will become more like the flu, where it is around seasonally and is dangerous for some people and unpleasant to catch, and maybe we have to get a vaccine every year, but there are hopefully better ways of treating it. I'm hoping that even if the new one is more transmissible, the vaccines will still be generally effective in preventing hospitalization and death. And we also now have new antivirals heading for approval (though Merck just said theirs is less effective than they originally thought). But it's still a case of, as I was just talking about with H, can't we just get a little break here, where D just got vaccinated, couldn't we have had a little bit of time to feel good about that before having to wonder what will happen with this new variant? (He's the one who said that, too.) I know we can choose to feel good about it because, as he also said, if nothing else, it's still protecting her from the other variants. And I'll try to do that (especially until we know more about how transmissible and deadly this variant truly is). But it's still just really discouraging and disheartening. |
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#647
I'm hopeful that science will continue finding better ways of treating it, as like you LT I've finally accepted that it's never going away... I'm going to take melatonin tonight so I can hopefully sleep without waking up in the middle of the night and going all doomsday on h again. L tells me to stop reading so much covid news but how can I? I told her I can't just stick my head in the sand and pretend it's not a thing.
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#648
If you have taken reasonable precautions, I think over worrying about it is a bit of a self indulgence. Which is fine if it is what you want to do -but I think sometimes it takes the focus away from other more real things. People die from stuff every day. I think the regular forms of dying are more likely for most people - heart disease, car accidents, falls in the bathroom (really-I represented a few traumatic brain injury people who fell in the bathroom), cancer, and the like - the usual suspects.
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#649
Regarding Covid, well, there's only really four ways out:
1 we get into a situation like with measles, where the vaccien plus treatments make it a non-issue for most people 2 we get better treatment and prevention and don't have to worry about it anymore in a bit 3 we somehow manage to increase the amount of people in the medical field dramatically 4 we continue to struggle with measures and impacts for a while I don't fully agree with worrying about it isn't focusing on 'a real thing' like cancer. I don't think I'd be likely to die from covid or even having to go to the hospital, I'm pretty young, my weight's fine, my nutrition is pretty good, I work out, I don't worry about myself... the thing I worry about when considering the risks is more like: this weekend I will meet 5 relatives that are almost 60, none of them are as rigid with precautions as I personally am, but since they are my closest relatives, I will most probably also not be as rigid with them. They are in a reasonably good category in case I manage to infect them, but they all work and have lots of contacts, including my grandma who is 80 and so on. Now, if somebody like her has to go to the hospital and take up a slot, by now there are so many people there only for that one illness and it's related risk factors, that somebody with cancer or that slips in the bathroom will get less decent care, if they have space for them at all. Instead of there being 20 patients with such issues, there's 20 more that the same amount of staff have to care for, increasing the issues of all the 'real things' like cancer, accidents and other heart disease. |
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#650
I am not saying covid is not real. Nor did I say that cancer is more real (I do think it is a more real concern for more people as a possible way to die - but we are all going to die from something at some point). My point was that focusing on something like covid and imagining that every little thing is covid or that people you are fond of are all going to keel over from it - is a convenient way of keeping one from focusing on other things in one's life that might be a more productive use of time and energy.
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#651
That is true, I guess most people don't consider those dangers... I've always been very aware of these risks so maybe I'm a bit biased now.
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#652
The difference between Covid and "the usual suspects" is that the usual rules of an individual's disease do not apply to a pandemic virus which relies on public health measures and the responsible actions of others in order to curtail it. The actions of others are (generally speaking) outside of our control and things which we cannot control are inherently stressful and anxiety provoking. Worrying seems rather reasonable response when you, your loved ones and everyone else in the world is at risk of death because of the risks which *other people* take.
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#653
I have my whole final exit worked out for several scenarios(I have about 4 copies of the book stuffed around my house). I don't particularly want to be dead just now, but I am not leaving it up to western medicine. I am definitely biased in favor of death not being the worst that can happen to a person.
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I mean, it's not such a big step from that to describing someone with a disability like me as a non-optimal outcome, or thinking about hiring someone with a disability as a non-optimal outcome. __________________ The secret to eternal youth is arrested development.—Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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Driving is perhaps a good comparison, as you can't control what other drivers do--but, as I've discussed with Dr. T before, and similar to what SD said, we've become used to those risks and don't consider how high they really are. Whereas Covid is still relatively new and constantly in the news. And it's not just about possible death, but also long Covid--I know someone who experienced that, and it sounded really miserable (like she couldn't work for months). |
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Seriously, I gasped out loud when I first read that line in the first post and thought "Are you f-ing kidding?" It is so reasonable to just treat you like a human being and make sure that you can direct your full attention to the topic at hand just like everyone else. They are giant a-holes, @@. __________________ Since you cannot do good to all, you are to pay special attention to those who, by accidents of time, or place, or circumstance, are brought into closer connection with you. (St. Augustine) |
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That is some good legalese going on there __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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But there is only so much you can do. You can catch stuff from others at the best of times - usually it doesn't kill you but it can. Chicken pox/strep throat can kill you or leave you with lingering side effects -"People who die from this infection often have perfectly normal immune systems," she said. "We still don’t know why an occasional person can develop a catastrophic illness with Group A strep while most other people don’t." __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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#660
Yeah for a while there, people were getting all kindsa flesh eating diseases from their dogs licking them. Wtf.
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