Couch 237: Social Rules

RTerroni · May 16, 2022 at 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

I was a programmer for 30 years and sorry but i never interpreted cnt as anything else but short for count. I would however object to the lack of parallelism in the naming of the two variables. As they stand, to me they have absolutely no relationship to each other. Maybe thats my COBOL background showing itself, but this just looks like a built in error to me.

My dad programed in COBOL for many years.

LonesomeTonight · May 16, 2022 at 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

How long ago did the box of (open) corn starch I just found down the cellar expire?

Let's just say, una was still young then...

Possible trigger:

Okay, maybe I exaggerated. 1986.

Wow, that's kind of impressive!

stopdog · May 16, 2022 at 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

How long ago did the box of (open) corn starch I just found down the cellar expire?

Let's just say, una was still young then...

Possible trigger:

Okay, maybe I exaggerated. 1986.

corn starch doesn't expire as far as I know. I think I bought a box in the 90s and still have it. I have some tapioca and a can of chestnut puree from 1993 also. I don't think it will hurt anyone. So far it hasn't

unaluna · May 16, 2022 at 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atisketatasket

How long ago did the box of (open) corn starch I just found down the cellar expire?

Let's just say, una was still young then...

Possible trigger:

Okay, maybe I exaggerated. 1986.

Hey im still young now!!

unaluna · May 16, 2022 at 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

corn starch doesn't expire as far as I know. I think I bought a box in the 90s and still have it. I have some tapioca and a can of chestnut puree from 1993 also. I don't think it will hurt anyone. So far it hasn't

Not until you throw it at someone!

atisketatasket · May 16, 2022 at 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

corn starch doesn't expire as far as I know. I think I bought a box in the 90s and still have it. I have some tapioca and a can of chestnut puree from 1993 also. I don't think it will hurt anyone. So far it hasn't

This is the kind of attitude that leads to 36-year-old boxes of corn starch sitting around cellars.

The box was open and a little disgusting inside. Besides we are selling the house and I don’t need corn starch at home. Out it went.

stopdog · May 16, 2022 at 10:10 PM

If it weren't for a major power outage, I know I would have ketchup and capers from the 80s. I get rid of anything that is furry.

RTerroni · May 16, 2022 at 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

This is the kind of attitude that leads to 36-year-old boxes of corn starch sitting around cellars.

The box was open and a little disgusting inside. Besides we are selling the house and I don’t need corn starch at home. Out it went.

Does the corn starch pre-date when you moved into the house.

susannahsays · May 16, 2022 at 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NP_Complete

Found this in some code at work today:

Code:

    class Cnt {
        int totalCnt = 0;

In all fairness, programmers do abbreviate stuff all the time, like desc for description and this code has likely been there for years. However, I'm not sure if this was someone too lazy to type out "Count" or someone thinking they were being funny.

I have a troubled history with the word that first came to mind when I saw this. I'm trying to not be all overly-offended feminist about this, but it is a little triggering seeing this. I'm not the only one who saw that word first, right? I mean, I actually had to read the code to figure out what it was supposed to be.

I saw it immediately too, but that might be because I was expecting something or else you wouldn't post it. At the same time, I was aware it's shorthand for count immediately, too.

Probably fair to wonder if this was someone's idea of a joke since tech industries are such sausage fests.

I'm probably more bothered because totalCnt seems like a repetitive name than anything, but I've also not had any experience of the c word in real life.

ETA - abbreviating count seems a bit much. I mean, they didn't abbreviate total and that has the same number of letters.

Daffydungle · May 17, 2022 at 12:37 AM

Oh gosh dont come to my part of Australia if you dont liek the c word. Mostly its used as a matey greeting between males and as a sentence filler in another population.

NP_Complete · May 17, 2022 at 01:55 AM

In the US it's a pretty hateful word. My ex used it a lot in my direction so I'm extra sensitive to it. That being said, I've heard Australians use it and the tone is different so it doesn't seem as troublesome.

I've been programming professionally for 15 years and I've never used cnt for count and I don't recall ever seeing it abbreviated as such anywhere either. If I want to count something, I'll generally use something like numItems. I now know who wrote the code and I'm certain he wasn't trying to be funny with it, so it's all good now.

ChickenNoodleSoup · May 17, 2022 at 04:09 AM

I come from competitive programming, so people always make things as short as possible, I have seen variables named that many times, it always meant count and I don't think anyone tried to be funny with that. Also, at my job we used to work with SQL and there you'd name functions that, mainly due to the fact that SQL has a limit of I think 30 bytes to name variables and functions, if you have a function that counts the animals in a specific farm, it's usually more understandable to abbreviate count over farm or animal.

Usually you just get used to some abbreviations and use them even if you don't need to. I for example would always abbreviate total as tot, even if there was no limit on name lengths. Tot actually means dead in German now that I think of it, and I only just realized this and don't think anyone thought of death ever when reading my variable names. It certainly was never intended as a joke.

atisketatasket · May 17, 2022 at 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChickenNoodleSoup

I for example would always abbreviate total as tot, even if there was no limit on name lengths. Tot actually means dead in German now that I think of it, and I only just realized this and don't think anyone thought of death ever when reading my variable names. It certainly was never intended as a joke.

This reminds me of the time the German magazine Der Spiegel ran a cover story on the Queen.

The cover headline? Die Queen.

Obviously to Germans die is the feminine article, but to English speakers it was quite a different message.

SlumberKitty · May 17, 2022 at 03:05 PM

Work has put me in a bad mood.

stopdog · May 17, 2022 at 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

This reminds me of the time the German magazine Der Spiegel ran a cover story on the Queen.

The cover headline? Die Queen.

Obviously to Germans die is the feminine article, but to English speakers it was quite a different message.

Context is key.
The shorthand cnt would not bother me because of the context and I would not have gone elsewhere with what it could mean because of context. I do have some words that can catch my attention -but I usually just laugh because it is my thing -not the innocent word or abbreviation's problem

SlumberKitty · May 17, 2022 at 05:25 PM

UGH.

Possible trigger:

I am feeling suicidal tonight. UGH.

I just want to lay in bed and not talk to anyone and not have anyone talk to me. I want to completely distance myself from everyone/everything. I know isolating is not good. I reached out to my Pastor's wife. She wasn't too helpful but she was trying. I reached out to another friend too and I am waiting to hear back. I have therapy tonight so I guess we will talk about this. I don't even want to get on the Zoom for therapy but I already paid for the appointment so I guess I should. I don't want to go to the hospital so I better manage this. Just a really bad crappy day that has gotten me down in the dumps.

atisketatasket · May 17, 2022 at 08:24 PM

This Onion story echoes a frequent stopdog complaint (no, not therapist-related): 7-Year-Old Unable To Maintain Single Cohesive Storyline While Playing With Action Figures

stopdog · May 17, 2022 at 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

This Onion story echoes a frequent stopdog complaint (no, not therapist-related): 7-Year-Old Unable To Maintain Single Cohesive Storyline While Playing With Action Figures

I like that one. My favorite one is Fun Toy Banned Because Of Three Stupid Dead Kids

and this one
God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy

I used to put onion stories on my bulletin board at school, but after the 12th student thought something was serious - I just stopped.

Quietmind 2 · May 18, 2022 at 03:39 AM

Can someone link me that website... TELL (?) for therapist exploitation? I'm okay, I just want the link to give a friend.

Edit: Found it. I didn't remember the words in the acronym TELL, but now I do.

https://www.therapyabuse.org/

Quietmind 2 · 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SlumberKitty

UGH.

Possible trigger:

I am feeling suicidal tonight. UGH.

I just want to lay in bed and not talk to anyone and not have anyone talk to me. I want to completely distance myself from everyone/everything. I know isolating is not good. I reached out to my Pastor's wife. She wasn't too helpful but she was trying. I reached out to another friend too and I am waiting to hear back. I have therapy tonight so I guess we will talk about this. I don't even want to get on the Zoom for therapy but I already paid for the appointment so I guess I should. I don't want to go to the hospital so I better manage this. Just a really bad crappy day that has gotten me down in the dumps.

Comic which I hope might comfort...

Major disclaimer, just to avoid misunderstanding: I don't think people want to wallow in depression. When I'm suicidal, I isolate myself too, and everything seems utterly pointless.

Instagram Comic

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Daffydungle Poohbah Member Since Apr 2020 Location: Nowhere Posts: 1,257 3 451 hugs given	May 17, 2022 at 12:37 AM #170 Oh gosh dont come to my part of Australia if you dont liek the c word. Mostly its used as a matey greeting between males and as a sentence filler in another population.

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atisketatasket Child of a lesser god Member Since Jun 2015 Location: Tartarus Posts: 19,146 (SuperPoster!) 8 12.4k hugs given	May 17, 2022 at 08:24 PM #177 This Onion story echoes a frequent stopdog complaint (no, not therapist-related): 7-Year-Old Unable To Maintain Single Cohesive Storyline While Playing With Action Figures __________________ The secret to eternal youth is arrested development.—Alice Roosevelt Longworth

Quietmind 2 Poohbah Member Since Jan 2020 Location: Somewhere I'm working to leave Posts: 1,243 4 8 hugs given	May 18, 2022 at 03:39 AM #179 Can someone link me that website... TELL (?) for therapist exploitation? I'm okay, I just want the link to give a friend. Edit: Found it. I didn't remember the words in the acronym TELL, but now I do. https://www.therapyabuse.org/