Couch 247: Choose Cheese!

ScarletPimpernel · Jan 26, 2024 at 04:22 PM

Even though the possible new T has a different style or modality, it's the relationship that matters the most. Like how you know your current T even without words being spoken. And different could be a good thing. You're not trying to replace your T. No one could ever replace him. But a fresh perspective and learning new things is always a benefit. So I hope you can develop a good rapport with new T AND still hold onto current T.

ChickenNoodleSoup · Jan 26, 2024 at 04:38 PM

I'm very grateful for all of you, not because of some of the small talk, but because when there's big issues, there's a collective that can share different opinions and ideas. Thank you, Scarlet.

ArtieTheSequal · Jan 26, 2024 at 06:19 PM

Hugs, CNS. I'm sorry that your fears were confirmed; the situation sounds very difficult.

comrademoomoo · Jan 27, 2024 at 06:00 AM

That's really sad news ChickenNoodleSoup and very complex for you to navigate. It sounds like part of you is responding in a very practical and rational way - wisely looking for other support elsewhere. Something I am still learning after more than a year of "losing" my therapist (not through illness or death) is that different parts have different timescales. It is has been really important for me to allow time for all aspects of me until I can arrive at a place where all bits of me are on board. Long and painful grief. Keep posting here, many of us are interested.

AnaWhitney · Jan 27, 2024 at 04:48 PM

Does anyone here have PTSD?
My psychologist tried to test me for it last week but i sabotaged the test 🙈 She called me out and made out like my avoidance was to stop myself from the re experiencing part of ptsd. which she suggested was the emotional reaction I would have when talking or being asked about a particular event. I always thought it had to be nightmares or flashbacks ?
Anyway I was not right afterwards, drank a lot of alcohol and

Possible trigger:

Self harmed and can now hardly use one of my arms because it’s so burned

I saw my T the next day and she said ‘ I have not seen you like this in a long time ‘ because I was so on edge and just a mess. I couldn’t get it out in session but managed to put it in a message after that it’s because I was called out on the ptsd test and couldn’t cope because I do not have ptsd

Does anyone have ptsd from something that happened so long ago like in childhood? Without having flashbacks? I just get really messed up if I try and talk about it which is why I don’t. That could not count surely ?

ScarletPimpernel · Jan 27, 2024 at 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnaWhitney

Does anyone here have PTSD?
My psychologist tried to test me for it last week but i sabotaged the test 🙈 She called me out and made out like my avoidance was to stop myself from the re experiencing part of ptsd. which she suggested was the emotional reaction I would have when talking or being asked about a particular event. I always thought it had to be nightmares or flashbacks ?
Anyway I was not right afterwards, drank a lot of alcohol and

Possible trigger:

Self harmed and can now hardly use one of my arms because it’s so burned

I saw my T the next day and she said ‘ I have not seen you like this in a long time ‘ because I was so on edge and just a mess. I couldn’t get it out in session but managed to put it in a message after that it’s because I was called out on the ptsd test and couldn’t cope because I do not have ptsd

Does anyone have ptsd from something that happened so long ago like in childhood? Without having flashbacks? I just get really messed up if I try and talk about it which is why I don’t. That could not count surely ?

I have PTSD from being neglected and mistreated in childhood. Like you, I didn't believe it. I just assumed I had a bad childhood. Like PTSD was for (what I considered) more extreme forms of trauma. My ex-pdoc diagnosed me with PTSD without us having any conversations about it. One day, I asked L if I did have it. We did an assessment together. In the end, she explained everything to me. I wish I remember how she labeled it and what qualified me, but I don't. But I do know that after her explaining all my symptoms to me, that I did have it.

I would do the assessment honestly and try to be open to the possibility. PTSD does not simply mean nightmares or flashbacks. It shows up differently for different people and different types of trauma.

comrademoomoo · Jan 28, 2024 at 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AnaWhitney

Does anyone here have PTSD?
My psychologist tried to test me for it last week but i sabotaged the test 🙈 She called me out and made out like my avoidance was to stop myself from the re experiencing part of ptsd. which she suggested was the emotional reaction I would have when talking or being asked about a particular event. I always thought it had to be nightmares or flashbacks ?
Anyway I was not right afterwards, drank a lot of alcohol and

Possible trigger:

Self harmed and can now hardly use one of my arms because it’s so burned

I saw my T the next day and she said ‘ I have not seen you like this in a long time ‘ because I was so on edge and just a mess. I couldn’t get it out in session but managed to put it in a message after that it’s because I was called out on the ptsd test and couldn’t cope because I do not have ptsd

Does anyone have ptsd from something that happened so long ago like in childhood? Without having flashbacks? I just get really messed up if I try and talk about it which is why I don’t. That could not count surely ?

Have you had a look at the diagnostic criteria for ptsd? It might help you understand how/where/if you feel that your experience fits the ptsd label. I think this link is clear in its explanation: PTSD and DSM-5 - PTSD: National Center for PTSD

As I understand it, the re-experiencing of the trauma is key to the diagnosis. However, flashbacks are not the only way to re-experience the trauma and flashbacks can manifest in different forms. The self harm you describe might meet the emotional distress/physical reactivity type of re-experiencing stated in criterion B. It's also worth noting that criterion A states the specific kinds of trauma which a person needs to have experienced to meet the diagnosis. If you have any of these horrible events in your past (certainly including childhood), then this probably makes sense of why your psychologist is investigating in this way.

AnaWhitney · Jan 29, 2024 at 08:14 AM

Thanks guys. Comrade, I hadn’t actually seen that one, it’s very clear, thank you.
Yes I think that’s what she meant about the re experiencing part. But I don’t know how to discuss it with her without triggering myself. I cannot cope when I am triggered. I also don’t want to discuss it and be in such a state and then not end up having ptsd because then I will feel like nobody can help me.

I also don’t want to engage In any of this because I feel like it might be a sort of pity diagnosis since I told the psychologist that I would feel like I have to !! Trigger warning !!!

Kill myself if I cannot be diagnosed. That was when they thought I had BPD and I said I would be able to accept it because it’s better than not having it and just being like this for no reason.

comrademoomoo · Jan 29, 2024 at 11:17 AM

If you don't want to engage with it, don't engage with it. Afterall, this is your business and no one else's. She should know how to have these discussions whilst helping you manage your emotions and overwhelm, you don't need to work that out on your own.

LostOnTheTrail · Jan 29, 2024 at 12:04 PM

A skilled therapist has a duty of care to the client, to ensure that they [the client] do not become unduly distressed during sessions, especially when dealing with difficult subject matter.

comrademoomoo · Jan 29, 2024 at 02:26 PM

Is vaping common in the US?

Lemoncake · Jan 29, 2024 at 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by comrademoomoo

Is vaping common in the US?

I would think it would be the same as for us.

comrademoomoo · Jan 29, 2024 at 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake

I would think it would be the same as for us.

I suppose I was thinking of it in terms of disposable vapes being banned here as well as the tobacco sale ban to young people and how that would fit with an American libertarian, conservative set of values. I think the British have a mixed relationship with such individualism - on the one hand we are British and think we can do what we like and believe we still rule the world; on the other hand we are very class/political subservient, respect hierarchy and do what we are told. Tally-ho.

unaluna · Jan 29, 2024 at 03:28 PM

Seems like i dont see ads for it like when they first came out.

comrademoomoo · Jan 29, 2024 at 03:33 PM

I imagine the French have no time for it and the Greeks must be positively outraged.

LonesomeTonight · Jan 29, 2024 at 03:47 PM

I've read it's a big issue among teens here (U.S.). They're trying to crack down more on underage sales and marketing. My brother-in-law used to vape--used it to stop smoking. Unsure whether he still does? I think there's this conception that it's a lot safer than cigarettes, but there's still health risks and addiction concerns, if it's a nicotine vape. Recreational cannabis is also legal in many states now, including mine, so I think lots of people will vape that, too.

LonesomeTonight · Jan 29, 2024 at 04:03 PM

OK, I realize that sounded like, "The kids these days!" But while talking to Dr. T today, I mentioned seeing someone I knew in college in a Facebook group. Then I said, "I guess I knew her more than 20 years ago." Then, "Oh, I guess I graduated college 25 years ago in May. Huh." I sort of stared into space for a moment after that.

ArtieTheSequal · Jan 29, 2024 at 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

OK, I realize that sounded like, "The kids these days!" But while talking to Dr. T today, I mentioned seeing someone I knew in college in a Facebook group. Then I said, "I guess I knew her more than 20 years ago." Then, "Oh, I guess I graduated college 25 years ago in May. Huh." I sort of stared into space for a moment after that.

holy smokes i just did the math - this May will be 39 years since i graduated from college!

i'm old

unaluna · Jan 29, 2024 at 05:18 PM

I got married a couple of months after one of my cousins, and his wife is on facebook, so it feels like i am constantly being reminded of the anniversaries - their actual, my... what would be the word? Theoretical?

ArtieTheSequal · Jan 29, 2024 at 05:41 PM

i'm so silly. i spent half my lunch restarting my laptop multiple times, running scans, clearing caches, etc because it seemed like it wasn't working. It finally dawned on me after work that I hadn't checked to see if it was just that my mouse wasn't working... and tada that was it. yeesh! just ordered a new one on amazon.

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ChickenNoodleSoup Grand Poohbah Member Since Apr 2017 Location: In a land far far away Posts: 1,582 7 1,306 hugs given	Jan 26, 2024 at 04:38 PM #2 I'm very grateful for all of you, not because of some of the small talk, but because when there's big issues, there's a collective that can share different opinions and ideas. Thank you, Scarlet.

ArtieTheSequal Writing my way through... Member Since Feb 2020 Location: In the desert Posts: 7,297 (SuperPoster!) 4 5,790 hugs given	Jan 26, 2024 at 06:19 PM #3 Hugs, CNS. I'm sorry that your fears were confirmed; the situation sounds very difficult.

comrademoomoo Grand Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: Toodlepip Posts: 1,728 5	Jan 29, 2024 at 11:17 AM #9 If you don't want to engage with it, don't engage with it. Afterall, this is your business and no one else's. She should know how to have these discussions whilst helping you manage your emotions and overwhelm, you don't need to work that out on your own.

comrademoomoo Grand Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: Toodlepip Posts: 1,728 5	Jan 29, 2024 at 02:26 PM #11 Is vaping common in the US?

unaluna Elder Harridan x-hankster Member Since Jun 2011 Location: Milan/Michigan Posts: 40,009 (SuperPoster!) 12 66.7k hugs given	Jan 29, 2024 at 03:28 PM #14 Seems like i dont see ads for it like when they first came out.

comrademoomoo Grand Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: Toodlepip Posts: 1,728 5	Jan 29, 2024 at 03:33 PM #15 I imagine the French have no time for it and the Greeks must be positively outraged.

LonesomeTonight Always in This Twilight Member Since Feb 2015 Location: US Posts: 20,835 (SuperPoster!) 9 75.1k hugs given	Jan 29, 2024 at 04:03 PM #17 OK, I realize that sounded like, "The kids these days!" But while talking to Dr. T today, I mentioned seeing someone I knew in college in a Facebook group. Then I said, "I guess I knew her more than 20 years ago." Then, "Oh, I guess I graduated college 25 years ago in May. Huh." I sort of stared into space for a moment after that.

unaluna Elder Harridan x-hankster Member Since Jun 2011 Location: Milan/Michigan Posts: 40,009 (SuperPoster!) 12 66.7k hugs given	Jan 29, 2024 at 05:18 PM #19 I got married a couple of months after one of my cousins, and his wife is on facebook, so it feels like i am constantly being reminded of the anniversaries - their actual, my... what would be the word? Theoretical?

ArtieTheSequal Writing my way through... Member Since Feb 2020 Location: In the desert Posts: 7,297 (SuperPoster!) 4 5,790 hugs given	Jan 29, 2024 at 05:41 PM #20 i'm so silly. i spent half my lunch restarting my laptop multiple times, running scans, clearing caches, etc because it seemed like it wasn't working. It finally dawned on me after work that I hadn't checked to see if it was just that my mouse wasn't working... and tada that was it. yeesh! just ordered a new one on amazon.