Couch 248: Curiouser and Curiouser

unaluna · Apr 27, 2024 at 09:48 PM

That's idiot-savant!

comrademoomoo · Apr 28, 2024 at 03:15 AM

I thought the Nuggets vs Lakers was going to reveal itself as a wise una allegory being told to help LT navigate the fish and rupture. But it turned out to be literally about sport. I feel disappointed. Adrift, if you will, without the moral guidance which only una can provide.

LonesomeTonight · Apr 28, 2024 at 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by comrademoomoo

I thought the Nuggets vs Lakers was going to reveal itself as a wise una allegory being told to help LT navigate the fish and rupture. But it turned out to be literally about sport. I feel disappointed. Adrift, if you will, without the moral guidance which only una can provide.

Same! Ex-MC especially liked sports metaphors, and of course Dr. T uses them, too.

I still think of this time that ex-MC was attempting to relate some situation H and I had to his wanting to play basketball despite being short. Afterward, H and I said to each other, "How exactly did that relate to anything?" I guess it was a bonding moment of sorts!

Dr. T will occasionally use them for sports I'm not that familiar with, and I'm like, "Could you explain that in (American) football or baseball terms?"

LonesomeTonight · 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtleyWilkins

LT, why don’t you take possession of the fish? Use it as your ownership of a piece of the old office. Transitional object perhaps.

My therapist moved offices in the middle of things. Honestly, it wasn’t that difficult to adjust to. I remember the first session in the new office he took me on a tour (the new office had room for more therapists, etc.) The only odd thing was for that first session there, his personal office wasn’t quite ready, so we used someone else’s. But his new office was fine.

Remember, he has to make it his own, and it may be configured a bit differently so things won’t be physically exactly the same.That’s to be expected.

But bottom line, the most important thing for me was that HE was the same. Our work continued. Our relationship was exactly the same. Sometimes it is important to remember what parts of that relationship are most important.

Some things change, but the foundation of your work will remain.

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Originally Posted by Deejay14

This fish is your transitional object of f you want it.. Seems to solve.

Thanks for the comments. I know at first, when I replied to Scarlet, I said that could be a good idea. But now I'm wondering if it might just make me feel sad? I think it depends on how it would happen and how other discussions go about this. Like if it's more, "Fine, I'll just take it so you don't have to deal with it," that won't feel good. Or if he says, "Yeah, I can't fit it. Do you want it back?" I mean, it would depend on the context for that second one--it might feel totally fine if we have a better discussion about it. If I feel understood.

If I felt better about our conversations and proposed it myself--or if he suggested it--then it might feel different. I'm not sure if that makes sense, what the difference would be. Right now, I just know I don't feel good about things. And taking it back and sitting it on a shelf would currently remind me of those feelings. But maybe I'll feel differently in a month or 6 weeks, when the move would be.

comrademoomoo · Apr 28, 2024 at 12:08 PM

I imagine if he were offering it back to you (sort of like re-gifting), it might feel more meaningful, rather than you reclaiming it for yourself. A relational process rather than a unilateral one. If the two of you were able to discuss the significance of the fish (the meaning is obviously not just about the fish itself) and what the giving, receiving, placing of the fish symbolizes then the offering it back to you could open up further work again. For example, the fish might be understood as parts of you and those parts belong with you and not others. At the moment it all sounds locked in rejection, shame, misunderstanding instead of being able to explore what's happening relationally and in your process. He seems to be thinking of it all very literally.

ArtieTheSequal · Apr 28, 2024 at 12:09 PM

(woowoo warning) ....or maybe, LT,you could still take it, and then bring it with you to the new office for the first couple times and sit it next to you, so it can absorb the energy of the new place, then maybe it would feel better having it at home. or in your car. or wherever. (maybe somebody already suggested that and I just missed it.)

Lemoncake · 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by comrademoomoo

I thought the Nuggets vs Lakers was going to reveal itself as a wise una allegory being told to help LT navigate the fish and rupture. But it turned out to be literally about sport. I feel disappointed. Adrift, if you will, without the moral guidance which only una can provide.

I knew Lakers was a sports thing, because my brother has a T shirt.

When we were kids, my aunt brought us each a Cardinals shirt as a gift.

Sweet Moo, Una is only ever going to break your heart.

Lemoncake · Apr 28, 2024 at 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

Thanks for the comments. I know at first, when I replied to Scarlet, I said that could be a good idea. But now I'm wondering if it might just make me feel sad? I think it depends on how it would happen and how other discussions go about this. Like if it's more, "Fine, I'll just take it so you don't have to deal with it," that won't feel good. Or if he says, "Yeah, I can't fit it. Do you want it back?" I mean, it would depend on the context for that second one--it might feel totally fine if we have a better discussion about it. If I feel understood.

If I felt better about our conversations and proposed it myself--or if he suggested it--then it might feel different. I'm not sure if that makes sense, what the difference would be. Right now, I just know I don't feel good about things. And taking it back and sitting it on a shelf would currently remind me of those feelings. But maybe I'll feel differently in a month or 6 weeks, when the move would be.

In this situation, when you’re grappling with uncertainty and conflicting emotions Instead of trying to push away or resolve these feelings immediately, recognize that it's natural to feel ambivalent and uncertain in situations like this,

Try to create space for yourself. You don’t have to make a decision right away.

unaluna · Apr 28, 2024 at 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Sweet Moo, Una is only ever going to break your heart.

And then she will be stronger at the broken places. But you can't run from love.

comrademoomoo · Apr 28, 2024 at 01:41 PM

You can't run from it, you can't hurry it, you can't help falling in it, all you need is it, we want to know what it is ... Oh I am tearing up over here in this pop parade.

unaluna · Apr 28, 2024 at 01:46 PM

Heard this today on tv show marathon "Any time now".
Fave song, fave show, life is good.

Lemoncake · Apr 28, 2024 at 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

And then she will be stronger at the broken places. But you can't run from love.

Old you would have said cooties. So guess there is some growth.

unaluna · Apr 28, 2024 at 02:33 PM

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Old you would have said cooties. So guess there is some growth.

You are too too funny!

ArtieTheSequal · Apr 28, 2024 at 02:52 PM

Sometimes, y'all, H really surprises me. I've been pretty crampy since my procedure on Friday and asked him to go get me some ibuprofen this morning cuz tylenol doesn't help. He came back with both that and these little gourmet boston creme pie donuts. omg. i know i'm not eating sugar right now but I agree with him, that i deserve one of these after Friday's appointment. It tastes soooooooo good!! It's pretty small so I hope it doesn't get me craving sugar again. Even if it does, it'll be worth it!!!

Lemoncake · Apr 28, 2024 at 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtieTheSequal

Sometimes, y'all, H really surprises me. I've been pretty crampy since my procedure on Friday and asked him to go get me some ibuprofen this morning cuz tylenol doesn't help. He came back with both that and these little gourmet boston creme pie donuts. omg. i know i'm not eating sugar right now but I agree with him, that i deserve one of these after Friday's appointment. It tastes soooooooo good!! It's pretty small so I hope it doesn't get me craving sugar again. Even if it does, it'll be worth it!!!

Hope you could enjoy the doughnut guilt free.

Lemoncake · Apr 28, 2024 at 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

You are too too funny!

Too short

ArtieTheSequal · Apr 28, 2024 at 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Hope you could enjoy the doughnut guilt free.

Indeed I did!

unaluna · Apr 28, 2024 at 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtieTheSequal

Indeed I did!

Krogers carries those, they are about cupcake size, so its not like a full effin meal like an eclair or something. They are so cute and tasty!

ArtieTheSequal · Apr 28, 2024 at 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

Krogers carries those, they are about cupcake size, so its not like a full effin meal like an eclair or something. They are so cute and tasty!

I don't know where he went to get these. I probably should not find out

LostOnTheTrail · Apr 28, 2024 at 04:36 PM

Good on you, Artie.

I'm fascinated by Boston Creme Pie, but it's probably not something I'd enjoy.

I find profiteroles a bit too much cream.

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unaluna Elder Harridan x-hankster Member Since Jun 2011 Location: Milan/Michigan Posts: 40,945 (SuperPoster!) 13 68.9k hugs given	Apr 27, 2024 at 09:48 PM #61 That's idiot-savant!

comrademoomoo Grand Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: Toodlepip Posts: 1,838 5	Apr 28, 2024 at 03:15 AM #62 I thought the Nuggets vs Lakers was going to reveal itself as a wise una allegory being told to help LT navigate the fish and rupture. But it turned out to be literally about sport. I feel disappointed. Adrift, if you will, without the moral guidance which only una can provide.

ArtieTheSequal Writing my way through... Member Since Feb 2020 Location: In the desert of my soul Posts: 7,598 (SuperPoster!) 4 6,011 hugs given	Apr 28, 2024 at 12:09 PM #66 (woowoo warning) ....or maybe, LT,you could still take it, and then bring it with you to the new office for the first couple times and sit it next to you, so it can absorb the energy of the new place, then maybe it would feel better having it at home. or in your car. or wherever. (maybe somebody already suggested that and I just missed it.)

comrademoomoo Grand Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: Toodlepip Posts: 1,838 5	Apr 28, 2024 at 01:41 PM #70 You can't run from it, you can't hurry it, you can't help falling in it, all you need is it, we want to know what it is ... Oh I am tearing up over here in this pop parade.

unaluna Elder Harridan x-hankster Member Since Jun 2011 Location: Milan/Michigan Posts: 40,945 (SuperPoster!) 13 68.9k hugs given	Apr 28, 2024 at 01:46 PM #71 Heard this today on tv show marathon "Any time now". Fave song, fave show, life is good.