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I don't understand why give one of those people the name of some other person you hire in the first place. To me, nothing good would ever come of such a thing. But I never saw them as helping or useful.

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Today I attended an online poetry workshop, and contributed to Joseph Fasano's Poetry Lifeline initiative for the first time.

I read this poem for someone.

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Today I attended an online poetry workshop, and contributed to Joseph Fasano's Poetry Lifeline initiative for the first time.

I read this poem for someone.
That's wonderful! It sounds like a meaningful experience.

Do you write your own work too?

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Thanks, Cake.

I love writing poetry, especially haiku.

They're three line poems that consist of 17 syllables.

The first line is 5 syllables, the second is 7, and the third is 5.

I find them very helpful for getting to the essence of an idea.

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Brilliant, Una.

That's a great overview!

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My latest adventure in poetry is writing Ekphrastic poems. I've only ever written one, I think, which is the one I just wrote earlier today haha. It's a new form for me and I do enjoy learning new forms! ("If ekphrasis is the art of writing about art, then ekphrastic poetry is poetry inspired by other creative works. Art, sculpture, architecture, film, television, and even dreams are all fertile material for the ekphrastic poem." from writers.com.) I'm sure @@ can provide the origination of the word ekphrasis!
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L broke another boundary. This time she talked to my Pdoc without informing me, telling her EVERYTHING that's been going on. In the 5 years together she's never done this. Actually, yes, when she talked to my sister without my permission.

Just because you sign an agreement for your T and Pdoc to talk to each other, does that give them the right to talk about anything and everything? There's absolutely no confidentiality? I'm so taking away their privilege if that's the case. It's not fair to walk into your appointment and have everything thrown at you.
There is probably not a limit to what’s discussed if you signed release unless there was something specific in the release. I understand the feeling of being blindsided that they spoke, though. When I was in therapy and also seeing a psychiatrist for medication-I didn’t sign it-simply because there was no therapy involved with the psychiatrist at all. I just update the therapist on dose changes if there were any. One time she said “Your doses are really high” and I simply told her it’s not her area.
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In today's session, I read out loud a thank-you note I'd written to Dr. T's office space (he's moving in a week). He seemed touched by it (and laughed in the spot where I tried to be funny). I have two more potential sessions in the current office, and I know he's concerned I'll be upset by them (as more things will be gone, but probably more for the second session). But I feel that I want to be there.

He's open to being very flexible with me, switching to virtual or even canceling entirely at the last minute (well, not sure how last-minute he'd be OK with cancellation), which I appreciate. We've tied the office move into various things in my current and past life, plus anxiety (including lack of control), and I feel it's been helpful discussion overall. I also don't want to just hide from something (virtual or canceling) because it could be painful. That's like what my mom would have me do.

Thinking I at least want to attend the Sunday session in person (it's weird scheduling, as he's overseeing a suitemate move Wednesday and moving himself and the rest of the office space Friday). Probably Tuesday in person, and Thursday has to be virtual. It's so hard to know what will be the right choice. I suppose there is no right choice.
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L broke another boundary. This time she talked to my Pdoc without informing me, telling her EVERYTHING that's been going on. In the 5 years together she's never done this. Actually, yes, when she talked to my sister without my permission.

Just because you sign an agreement for your T and Pdoc to talk to each other, does that give them the right to talk about anything and everything? There's absolutely no confidentiality? I'm so taking away their privilege if that's the case. It's not fair to walk into your appointment and have everything thrown at you.
Scarlet, I had some issues with this, too. I had an agreement signed to allow ex-T and ex-MC to speak about me. Ex-T would always ask, like, "is it OK if I tell [then-MC] about x?" and if I said no, she wouldn't. I mistakenly assumed that ex-MC wasn't telling her stuff. Then, around when we terminated with him, he mentioned, "Oh, I often filled ex-T in." It made me feel betrayed--I though ex-T would have mentioned it?

There was another time where I guess I'd allowed ex-MC to communicate with Dr. T, though very limited. I thought when I stopped seeing ex-MC, that expired. And then, when I emailed ex-MC about something, he BCCed Dr. T in his reply. I only found out because I said something to Dr. T about his response, and he said, "Oh, yeah, he replied yesterday afternoon, right?" And I was like, "I'm sorry, what? How did you know that?" So I then revoked that privilege.

There was also a time when Dr. T told then-p-doc about something going on with me (I'd given permission), and she kind of interrogated me on it in the next session, which upset me. I think I then ended there ability to talk, after telling Dr. T it bothered me that he hadn't let me know.

There's also an option on the forms to say they can only communicate about a very specific thing. So you could possibly only let your p-doc and L communicate about your medication, for example. Or just remove their ability to communicate entirely, if that will feel better.
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So sorry this is so hard on you, LT.

Loss of a former safe space is no small thing.

I know you will still have the same T, but this really socks.

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Brilliant, Una.

That's a great overview!
Yeah i never thought of haiku as "capturing a moment". Good to go back to the basics sometimes!
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L has told me that from now on she will tell me when she talks to another provider and the basics of what she'll say.

The problem was that L disclosed to Pdoc about the whole leaving out "items" situation AND that my SI was one of the worst she's seen me at. Okay, the "items" was not a disclosure I wanted. Pdoc has already told me I overreact on other things, and of course she did on this. Plus the whole thing is just embarrassing for me. The SI stuff, I understand updating Pdoc. I wish she would have warned me because when I got in there, I was threatened with IOP and hospitalization. Would have been nice to be prepared for that.

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In today's session, I read out loud a thank-you note I'd written to Dr. T's office space (he's moving in a week). He seemed touched by it (and laughed in the spot where I tried to be funny). I have two more potential sessions in the current office, and I know he's concerned I'll be upset by them (as more things will be gone, but probably more for the second session). But I feel that I want to be there.

He's open to being very flexible with me, switching to virtual or even canceling entirely at the last minute (well, not sure how last-minute he'd be OK with cancellation), which I appreciate. We've tied the office move into various things in my current and past life, plus anxiety (including lack of control), and I feel it's been helpful discussion overall. I also don't want to just hide from something (virtual or canceling) because it could be painful. That's like what my mom would have me do.

Thinking I at least want to attend the Sunday session in person (it's weird scheduling, as he's overseeing a suitemate move Wednesday and moving himself and the rest of the office space Friday). Probably Tuesday in person, and Thursday has to be virtual. It's so hard to know what will be the right choice. I suppose there is no right choice.
It will probably be good to just take it one session at a time. Like if you already made the decision to have the Sunday session in person..you don’t have to decide about the Tuesday session until after you see where the Sunday session leads. You never know. You might get what you need out of the in person session on Sunday. You can balance it. Like probably the virtual session in between the old office and new office would be good. Instead of doing in person, in person, in person then boom! In person the next time at the new office. I don’t know if what I’m typing makes sense. It makes sense in my head but I don’t know if it translated like that on here.
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Scarlet, thats bogus that your pdoc would threaten you for something that happened weeks ago! Plus, not sure threaten was the most supportive action she could choose. Jersey is right, not their strong suit!
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So sorry this is so hard on you, LT.

Loss of a former safe space is no small thing.

I know you will still have the same T, but this really socks.

Thanks, Lost. It helps that you understand He said early this week, "I'm surprised about how hard this has been for you." I told a good friend that, and she replied, "Does he know you? I knew this would be hard for you." He seems to get it now.
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L has told me that from now on she will tell me when she talks to another provider and the basics of what she'll say.

The problem was that L disclosed to Pdoc about the whole leaving out "items" situation AND that my SI was one of the worst she's seen me at. Okay, the "items" was not a disclosure I wanted. Pdoc has already told me I overreact on other things, and of course she did on this. Plus the whole thing is just embarrassing for me. The SI stuff, I understand updating Pdoc. I wish she would have warned me because when I got in there, I was threatened with IOP and hospitalization. Would have been nice to be prepared for that.
Ugh, I'm sorry. Sounds like you were blindsided.

It makes me think of another time where I met with my then-pdoc, who was in the same practice as ex-MC and ex-T (neither were "ex" at the time!), and she implied that they'd all talked and thought I should do IOP. Which felt like a big betrayal, like, they were all talking about me without saying anything to me first? When I talked to T after that, she said she hadn't agreed with the IOP thing.
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It will probably be good to just take it one session at a time. Like if you already made the decision to have the Sunday session in person..you don’t have to decide about the Tuesday session until after you see where the Sunday session leads. You never know. You might get what you need out of the in person session on Sunday. You can balance it. Like probably the virtual session in between the old office and new office would be good. Instead of doing in person, in person, in person then boom! In person the next time at the new office. I don’t know if what I’m typing makes sense. It makes sense in my head but I don’t know if it translated like that on here.

Thanks, Jersey. It makes sense! That's what I'm thinking right now, to take it one at a time. I thought that going in today, like if I felt satisfied today--or so distressed that I didn't want to come back--then I could just do the next two virtually. Right now, I intend to go to Sunday's, then see how I feel. Part of why I wanted to read the thank-you today was so I'd have that done with, in case I opted not to come in person. Dr. T said I could have read it virtually, but it wouldn't have felt the same.

The last session next week will have to be virtual because he'll be packing that day and only seeing clients for half the day, all virtually. I also think maybe it could help me to do the first new office session virtually, so I can see what it looks like inside and be prepared when I come in. He also said he may not have everything set up in the office yet, which could be another reason to wait.
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LT - Could he maybe take pictures for you of the new office? L does that for me every time something changes. Like every time. It's extremely helpful to prepare for the space and not get overwhelmed.

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LT - Could he maybe take pictures for you of the new office? L does that for me every time something changes. Like every time. It's extremely helpful to prepare for the space and not get overwhelmed.

Thanks, Scarlet. I did ask about pictures before. But I know it's all still being put together. I asked at one point if he could send me a photo or two the day before or morning of when I'm first coming in, but he never really said if he would. I have seen the outside of the building and driven past it (it's near another area where I frequent), but of course that doesn't give me a sense of what it's like inside.

I do think having my first session in the new office as virtual could be the best option, as then he can turn his computer to show me what it looks like. Plus my whole sensitivity to paint fumes.
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