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Always in This Twilight
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#161
Hugs, Scarlet. I'm sorry it's not getting better.
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#162
Things will L has gotten worse. Now it seems like she's pushing me towards leaving.
I had another phone call with T. She said two options are I take a break now for like a month and then work with her for 5 months or to wait for 6 months and then take a break when she goes on her leave. Those aren't the only options, just 2 she provided me. T thinks I should keep trying with L. She does think the problem lies with my reactivity, but also L and the choices she's making. Like today. L and I were talking through text and email and then she ended the conversation by saying we'll talk about it in session. I am struggling so much. It's affecting my memory so bad. I don't remember conversations with L. I also can't even remember what I did yesterday. When people remind me, I remember. But otherwise, I'm blank. How can you give up on a 5 year relationship? That's what I want to know. How do you let go? I sometimes feel like I'm in an abusive relationship and both of us are stuck. We keep trying, but failing. I have session today. I'm not looking forward to it. I don't even want to talk to her. I technically shouldn't go because I'm extremely tired and won't be safe to drive. I feel like I'm obligated to go. I really hate L right now. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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#163
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I wish I knew what to say that would help. I just wanted to empathize and show a little solidarity. I wish you all the best in this difficult situation. |
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#164
To me the situation doesn't sound good. It seems her things and yours are getting mixed up, and that's not the point of therapy at all, it should be about you. I don't know how else to put it.
For reference with my T and his illness: he's said some people can't take it and just leave. Most others accept it and we work on it sometimes, but it's not most of our session at all. I am glad I have flipper to talk to about more regular life things. But while some things like my abandonment fears get triggered by Ts situation, it's something he takes in and gives back to me as helpful takes and lessons for me. To me it doesn't sound like that's happening with L and you. It doesn't even sound like she manages to get you regulated enough to remember the sessions, that doesn't seem to useful to me... Thinking of you! |
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#165
Maybe a good start would be closing this thread and starting a new one with a less explosive title.
I find it upsetting myself, i cant imagine how you feel to be constantly reminded of it. I know being reminded or not doesnt CHANGE things, but what is the point of purposely re-traumatizing? Its like getting your car stuck in sand or snow - the point is to get yourself out. Figuring it out is how growth happens, not digging yourself in deeper and deeper. And yes, i can (and probably will) put this thread on ignore. |
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#166
I'm so sorry. I hope you're able to be safe going to and from session today and that it's somehow helpful or at least doesn't further hurt you.
So, in terms of leaving a 5-year relationship, I struggled with that with ex-MC. (That may have been more like 4 years? I don't know.) But still, until we had the major rupture near the end, I didn't see how I could leave. Like, I thought I wouldn't survive it. But then the major rupture happened, We kept trying for a few months after that. But what it came down to is that I felt I couldn't trust him anymore. No matter what he said, I just couldn't. I also couldn't feel the caring when he looked at me, but I think the big thing was the trust. With Dr. T, we've had lots of conflicts--more than with ex-MC, certainly. But for whatever reason, I continue feeling like I trust him (which is what made me go back the one time I actually left). And if something happened in my life, I felt he was the one I wanted to turn to with that. Do you feel like you still trust L? I know trust can fade in a relationship and then return. So it's not a fatal blow. But it's something for you to think about. I do think a break could help you to see it all more clearly. Even just a couple weeks, ideally with no contact with her (maybe you could meet with T once or twice in the middle of that time). |
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#167
Una,
I will answer these responses, ask a moderator to rename the thread, ask them to close the thread and restart a new thread. I'm sorry this upsets you. That was not my intention! __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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#168
Thank you, Artie. Even though I wish you weren't suffering, it's nice to know that I'm not alone. I wish my L would do something really really grievous, so I could leave. What? I don't know. Or just give up and let me go. Which she won't. I know she won't. She's hurt me deeply by her pregnancy even though I know it's not like she was trying to hurt me. And then I'm just suffering more and more and I can't seem to stop. This mess is at least 50% on me, my reactivity. I own that. I think she's owning her part? Today it seemed like she wasn't blaming. I just wish there was a clear answer.
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#169
Thanks, CNS. Today, for once, we actually worked on being more regulated. We went slower and we did breathing and tense/release. I actually didn't freeze today! My memory one the other hand is still waning.
Yes, this year has been so much about her. Too much. I don't get to work on the things I want to work on, least not with specifics. Like parts work or my childhood timeline or my feelings about losing my relationship with my dad. And this past month, all we have worked on is her pregnancy, my infertility a little, and our relationship. I don't know if I'm really gaining any lessons. Just a bunch of processing. I used to learn things from her like how parts work works and dialectics and behavioral chain analysis. And more. Maybe I'm just exhausted from all the processing? Maybe it's just overloading my brain? I know something needs to change, I'm just somehow hoping it doesn't mean without her. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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#170
LT, I guess I must trust L in some ways because why am I refusing to leave her? I believe she won't abandon me as in stop being my therapist. I don't trust her to stop hurting me, but I know that's unrealistic. But to some degree, I need her life to stop impacting mine. I'm trying to trust that she's been 100% honest with me. I mean she must be to tell me all of these things, right? I think if just somehow I can get myself to trust her honesty, I might be able to hold onto the good parts of our relationship.
Similar to your ex-MC and Artie's L, I wish my L would give me good enough cause to leave her. Lie outright to me. Abandon me. Insult me. I don't know! But I just think to myself how can I give her up? What if we can work through it? She's willing to. And now T thinks I should work through it. T says we're all messy people just trying to find our way. I do think a break would be good. I really do see the pros. And yes, T would definitely be there for me if/when I need her. And I just don't know how to let go. I'm seriously addicted to all the contact. And I have a fear of missing out on precious time with her before her leave. But pretty much, not all, everyone says that I should at least take a break. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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