[morning8glory]

Dear Cam
Wow thanks for the information on calcuim do you have that all stored up in your head or do you have reference material I can look at if I need to make a point of it to some one. .
I would not argue this point with my manic friend though he would only make me insane doing so.
You do not win an argument with him.
And it would only put him into deep depression if he lost an argument.
I have decided to say to my friend that I have already bought many bottles of vitamins and that is true when I see them on sale I stock pile and I will say when I am out of my calcium.
I will take what he has to say under consideration and mean while he is searching for a certain kind of calcium and he does not have internet service and I will seek out a company that sells the kind he wantst and give him the information for the place to purchase that type calcium.
I will humor him.
So far he says Calcium citrate is what he is taking and he wants to find two other sources.
By the time he gets his catalogs he will move on to another thing to preach about.
My husband seen him last night and he got the calcium lecture also. My husband is a very patient person and understands this is part of our friends illness.

I like this what you said yes. Water even a drug if it is used to flush out bacteria etc.
As for herbs, one must consider them drugs. Just because they are natural, does not mean that they are totally safe (eg. opium and strichnine are natural, as is the cyanide contain in peach pits). Any product (animal, vegetable, or mineral) taken to attempt to alleiate and illness "must" be considered a drug. The substance that is taken is expected to elicit a therapeutic effect, thus it is a drug therapy. Even water can be considered a drug, when it is taken to try to flush out the bacteria and viruses of a cold.

So what do you have to say about the taking of high clonics deep water flushes for bowels my friends wife does that for people and they think it is very healthy way for every one to remove toxins for system.
My friend will not have a bowel block from calcium because he regularly takes high clonics from his wife.
Morning8glory.

[CamW]

M8G - Yeah, all of that bizarre information is stored in my head. Hey, anyone can do it; it just takes practice. I think that my ability to retain snippets of unrelated trivia and combine them into theories and hypotheses was formulated as I was entering puberty (possibly with the help of the increased levels of testosterone surging through my body at this period of my life).

It was between ages 11 and 13 that I used to memorize the week to week goals-against averages of all the goaltenders in the NHL, including the back-ups. I would then calculate save percentages (this wasn't routinely done in the early 1970s) to see who the best goaltenders really were. I had to do these caculation by hand, as pocket calculators were the size of Palm Pilots and cost about the same.

Also, at that time I was really into UFO conspiracy theories (only 30 years too early). I read everything by Frank Edwards and George Adamski. In the end I realized that these guys really needed a life, so they invented one.

Put both of these passions together (mathematics and a faith in believing the obviously unbelievable) and you get someone who can spew off inane facts all afternoon (especially when stting on a barstool).

As for using logic and facts to refute your friend's beliefs; it ain't gonna work. It is nearly impossible to refute the faith one has in their convictions (eg. religious extremists of any "faith", "War on Drugs" advocates, those abducted by aliens, Vancouver Canuck fans, etc.).

All I can say about high colonics is, "EEEUUUWW!!!" I'm sorry, but their are things that people (like your friend) do in private that they really shouldn't make public knowledge . This includes the little games we all play in the bedroom with chocolate sauce, french fries and a chicken .... .

You can never win an argument with someone who is in a manic state. - Cam

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