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And thanks for your thoughts. I don't think it will work that way in a divorce here where I live. We haven't been married very long, and the division of "assets'" will likely come down to what we each brought into the marriage (meaning, we will take away what we each brought in). I've read the laws in my state, so I don't think a judge will rule that I have to split any savings I have with my husband. But I do need to check with a lawyer on all details first. I will not move on credit. That's shooting myself in the foot, creating yet another monthly expense for myself. I am going about this in the way that makes the most sense for me. I want to speak with my therapist and decide with my therapist what is best before doing anything. I am not prepared for the potential fallout that could occur if he says no to therapy right now, and yes, I would have to give him an explanation as to why. I cannot just tell him, we must go to therapy without reasons. Previously, he was against therapy altogether and said if that's ever mentioned, that means the relationship is over. So there's that part of it too. And yes, he'd probably be better off with a sugar mamma because that's how he sometimes has treated me. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Was he upset you didn’t discuss it with him first and that you didn’t pick the place together, regardless who is paying?
I am not trying to excuse his behavior, but was it a surprise purchase like a birthday gift or something he preferred or expected you two discussed together? My husband wouldn’t care what I book and where because he is very easy going. He however knows better to not book anything without discussion of all options because I am not easy going at all, I don’t like surprises and mostly just because how I am. Was he supposed to pay you back half of it, maybe he didn't feel like paying half for something he doesn’t like. If it was a gift from you, then of course he just had to say thank you and be quiet. |
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__________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Oh yeah under the circumstances it’s understandable you just booked it and he had to be happy about it. I had scenario in my head more like a vacation planning. Yeah him complaining is ridiculous. He should be especially happy that there are no rooms left and you got it! He is difficult
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@divine1966, you had pointed out the roller coaster nature of my relationship right now. A woman on an abuse forum on Facebook said the yo yo effect is the effect of an abusive relationship. I suppose the same could be said in general for any toxic/unhealthy relationship dynamic -- up and down, up and down, up and down. And that's exactly what I am experiencing from one day to the next. One moment, I can feel totally content and happy with him, and that's when I have doubts about leaving him, and in the next moment, he's exhibiting yet another irksome/enraging toxic behavior that sends me into a downward spiral of wanting to divorce him. There's no emotional stability here. It's very up and down, and I do feel very yanked around by the inconsistency constantly.
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Sounds like relationship with my dad. You don’t know one day from another how things will be and what he’ll say or do. The only way to maintain sanity it’s keep your distance which isn’t possible with one’s spouse. |
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I have therapy today, thank goodness!!! __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Well, therapy was not of much help today. He wanted to discuss finances and the issues between us over finances and we did not get anywhere. Then I mentioned and wanted to discuss my husband's comment about dark haired women that has sent me into an insecurity spiral, and we didn't get far on that one either. I am disappointed by today's session and feel even more alone with this.
I know I cannot exist in a relationship where I feel insecure. I know I cannot exist in a relationship that is frequently up and down. I know I cannot exist in a relationship where yelling occurs periodically. I know I cannot exist in a relationship when it feels toxic, even if just sometimes. We fought over money last weekend, I think I mentioned. The next time he tries to argue with me, I think I will just tell him "This is toxic and I don't want any part of it". __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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It did come up in therapy (I mentioned it), that I think my husband is trying to tear me down. The mean jokes that are put downs disguised as "jokes", his comment about preferring dark haired women, his attempts to keep me from sticking to my diet and losing weight.... all of this tells me or points to the strong possibility that he wants to ruin my self esteem.
I am SO saddened by this potential and very realistic reality. It breaks my heart and it HURTS badly to know or think that my husband is trying to mentally and emotionally hurt me, especially when he claims to "love" me soo much. This freaking HURTS. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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You mentioned that you were afraid that if you tell him you want to do couples therapy that this might lead to early divorce before you have your ducks in a row.
Then you mentioned he said that if it comes to couples therapy that in his eyes, it's already over. I think his attitude shows that he is afraid to face his issues. This is his way of trying to scare you out of couples therapy. If you bring it up and he gets upset, you still don't have to mention divorce. Then you can say at least you tried your best. If you expect him to get upset you can mentally prepare yourself for it. You can remind yourself that he's not really mad at you, he's just lashing out because he's afraid of confronting his problems. Plus it's more affirmation that you are a good person trying your best. You deserve respect. |
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I am not ready to bring up couples therapy. That's just where I stand. I am not ready to. And yes, he's afraid to face his issues. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I know the feeling. Maybe just focus on your own growth some more. Can't hurt. You are strong to seek help and keep working towards your own peace.
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My husband used to make mean jokes at my expense like that even in front of my own family. I would just laugh about it and go with it. It took me a while to realize how much this putting down was affecting me. When I finally told how I felt about him making jokes at my expense he was surprised as if he didn’t realize how it was affecting me. After that he didn’t joke like that about me anymore. |
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@HaveHope, I know you have been for something more than a year with your husband and that makes things more difficult because I can see you love him so much. But, from your posts in this thread I knew you are gonna do the best for you and you aren't gonna cope with more yelling and emotional mistreat. So, I only wanted to tell you that I support you and that I think you are right when taking your time to consider all possible options and a way out if needed.
Didn't want to write a lot here because I'm myself living relationship problems and I wanted to avoid to project at any coast. I understand how much you are struggling and I wanted you to know. __________________ Social Anxiety and Depression. Cluster C traits. Trying to improve my English. My apologies for errors and mistakes in advance. Mankind is complex: Make deserts blossom and lakes die. ( GIL SCOTT-HERSON) |
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