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#883
He's saying how devastated he is.... well, too bad honey. You made your bed, and now you get to lie in it.
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#884
I made the vast mistake of engaging with him today. He denies everything, which is enraging me even more. I got more gaslighting, then manipulations and then guilt tripping. I am SO done with him.
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#885
He reminds me of past parasite boyfriends I couldn’t get rid of - and thats how I view him now., he’s a leech and a parasite I have to shake off my body, or scrape off.
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#886
I am getting some amount of peace this morning, meaning no messages from him (yet).
I am constantly astounded by his behavior - the gaslighting, the manipulations and the continued lying. Yesterday he was trying to tell me "don't throw our marriage away over just two texts to someone". He was downplaying the whole affair! He reduces it to "two texts" -- well, those two texts indicated A LOT about where his mind was at -- he was thinking of HER, while he was WITH ME, he was sending HER sweet nothings THE DAY AFTER we MADE LOVE together! OMG! I mean, seriously... don't throw the marriage away over two texts? NO, it's over your affair you a-hole! __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#887
Don’t forget that there were other things and this affair is just the last straw. You can tell him that
Sure if texts were “what time is the meeting tomorrow” then if course it’s no biggie. Thinking and dreaming of your female co worker and telling her that while in bed with your wife is enough reason to end a marriage. Plus these are texts you know. How many he had that you don’t know about Stop responding to him. He is now building a narrative how you over react. You could tell him that this is not even the only reason for divorce but just another thing that is wrong here. Tell him that you divorcing because you don’t want him to be married to him and end of story |
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And yes, it's enough to end a marriage over. But you are correct - it's the whole of what he's put me through, and it's his abuse overall on top of an infidelity. He enraged me all over again though yesterday, proving to myself that no communication is best. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#889
People won’t even care why you are divorcing. Who needs to know? No one. I don’t care why people get divorced.
I meant he is building a narrative to make you question your decision. I’d not care what he tell other people |
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He's given up on reconciliation for right now. I went ballistic again on him yesterday, so he's backed off. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#891
Please don't chastise or criticize me for this, but I left a message for his ex wife last night. I wanted to speak with her to get HER side of the story. My now ex tells me this morning that it upset her and to not contact anyone he knows anymore. I didn't reply or say one single word to address it with him. I am ignoring his request. I will not be contacting anyone else, but I did want to speak with his ex. I am gathering she will not be calling me back, however.
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#892
Not criticizing, just be careful. You probably need to avoid contact with all in his circle. Your doing this, like Divine said a few posts back, provides him evidence that you are overreacting (and perhaps harassing him and his circle of people). Don't gift him with that kind of ammunition.
Sorry you are going through this. Sounds miserable. |
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#894
Yeah she likely won’t tell you anything because if she doesn’t know you, she has no idea what you going to do with that information. I don’t blame you wanting to know, but there’s no way to know for sure. I’d never tell anyone anything about my ex husband and I hope he’d never say anything about me. But I get the temptation to know.
On the other hand he can’t tell you who to contact. Not up to him. I would be careful about contacting people but not because he says so. He isn’t in charge |
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#895
I know what it's like wanting to get to the truth, or "unmask" someone.
From what you have said about the ex-wife before, it sounds like she is still interested or invested somehow. It's OK to want to speak to people! It just depends how you go about it. They might not want to know, especially if you're very upset. A lot of people will struggle to listen or understand. It can't be forced at all. Is there anyone you can trust to advise you? Like your therapist or abuse advocate? It is up to you who you speak to, and how you speak to them (not up to anyone else). You have to live the consequences of your actions, and they have to live with the consequences of their own actions, too |
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And yeah, he cannot tell me whom I can and cannot contact. I ignored that part of his text completely. I will not be contacting anyone else. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I am speaking with both my advocate and my therapist tomorrow -- good!!!! I need it. Right now I feel traumatized by his abuse from yesterday. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#900
She maybe was upset to find out he messed up his second marriage. In addition who knows what he told her. He maybe told her that you are abusive and crazy and he finally escape you so she is now upset about it. or scared for herself. I’d not trust anything he says to anyone
He maybe asked to go live in her place so she is upset about that. Who knows |
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