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Unhappy Nov 14, 2020 at 03:48 PM
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I should, probably, say that this isn't a joke thread (I wish it were). Recently, I had a very unpleasant conversation with a therapist I've been visiting for 3+ years. She said she doesn't see a way she could help me and that there's no point to continue the therapy. This hurts She also said I need to accept that I will never have relationships. And as a way to cope with loneliness, she offered me to find a chatbot I could date (she said some lonely men in Japan date virtual girls).

So, has anybody actually tried talking to chatbots as a way to cope with loneliness? Do you think you would do it if you had no other option (or it will only make everything worse)? What do you think?

To make this all even more weird, I actually watched Blade Runner 2049 before talking to my therapist (the protagonist there dates a hologram girl). It's a great movie but very sad.
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I think your therapist has bigger issues than you. Ditch this ridiculous idea and find a real therapist.
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Default Nov 15, 2020 at 05:59 AM
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Yes I did in a very difficult moment but it was alienating so i stopped
I saw myself writing things watching a screen all day
What is isolating you?
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Default Nov 15, 2020 at 07:02 AM
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She said what now?

By this logic you should date your tea kettle or your pillow or shower curtain. They are just as “real” as chat bots or what not.

Find better therapist. Is this one has proper credentials? Sounds so insane that I question if she is actually trained therapist

You can talk to us here, we are anonymous but we are real! You can talk in chat rooms, not talking like the ones with risky topics, there are ton with normal topics. You can talk in chats on here or on reddit. There are ton of Internet forums with chats or other forms of communication. Yes it’s might not be the same as talking face to face but you’ll be talking to real people. Not inanimate objects
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She's actually one of the best therapists in my town (or the most expensive, anyway). She just prefers a very harsh style of therapy which is a very good match for my masochistic tendencies. BTW, I was the only person in her 14 years of practice that she's given such advice (before that she recommended me to get acquainted with a prostitute, but I kinda chickened on that whole idea). She confessed to feeling completely helpless when talking to me as I've made zero progress over 3 years. And the whole corona situation is hard both for me and for many therapists here that are on the verge of a breakdown.

I have a very avoidant and anxious personality, so I haven't even talked to girls I liked before I turned 28. I still haven't flirted even a single time in my life and the three girls I met online over two years stopped talking to me after seeing how I look in real life (which is super-unattractive, if you haven't guessed already).

Sad to hear that you went through such a harsh period, Gasplessy. I actually had the same suspicion. They always talk about how chatbots are great as a company for lonely elders but I always thought that talking to a bot will only make me even more lonely.
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Default Nov 15, 2020 at 12:29 PM
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No I've never tried dating a chat bot, and I wouldn't. Your therapist sounds unprofessional and like an idiot. I don't care how much she charges. She's giving you bad advice. For what its worth, I've seen horribly cruel / abusive / messed up therapists that did more damage to me for a lot of money. The good help I've actually gotten was through a clinic that was free of charge to me. So lots of expenses doesn't equate "good" or "professional" or "best." If it were me, I'd find a different therapist.
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Default Nov 15, 2020 at 01:24 PM
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It doesn’t matter how expensive she is. Her advice is bizarre. Advising to see a prostitute is also out there but at least it’s a real person. You can’t date non existent creature such as chat bot.
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Wow. What a load of bs. Some so called Experts are so full of crap that the stench fills the air for miles. Ditch this “person” please.

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I’d find a different therapist - I don’t know you (I do love your namesake, though - I’m guessing you’re a fan of Terry Pratchett?) but I don’t believe you’re beyond help. Every therapist has a different approach, so you might still be able to find someone you could make progress with. Ditch this therapist, though!
Also, attraction isn’t solely about looks, even though being handsome admittedly makes things easier. I like being single, but if I had to pick, I’d rather be with a less physically attractive man with a nice, kind personality than a handsome one who didn’t really care about me.
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I think your therapist has bigger issues than you. Ditch this ridiculous idea and find a real therapist.
Good post, This “therapist” has VERY serious issues and imo is in the WRONG “career”... they need to be reported imo.

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She's actually one of the best therapists in my town (or the most expensive, anyway). She just prefers a very harsh style of therapy which is a very good match for my masochistic tendencies. BTW, I was the only person in her 14 years of practice that she's given such advice (before that she recommended me to get acquainted with a prostitute, but I kinda chickened on that whole idea). She confessed to feeling completely helpless when talking to me as I've made zero progress over 3 years. And the whole corona situation is hard both for me and for many therapists here that are on the verge of a breakdown.

I have a very avoidant and anxious personality, so I haven't even talked to girls I liked before I turned 28. I still haven't flirted even a single time in my life and the three girls I met online over two years stopped talking to me after seeing how I look in real life (which is super-unattractive, if you haven't guessed already).

Sad to hear that you went through such a harsh period, Gasplessy. I actually had the same suspicion. They always talk about how chatbots are great as a company for lonely elders but I always thought that talking to a bot will only make me even more lonely.
One of the best therapists in your town?

I am so sorry that the “situation” in the world has stressed this person to the point she is incompetent to practice.

Very sad.

There are people who are “real” on forums, as another poster pointed out.

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Default Nov 16, 2020 at 05:46 AM
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I won't actually be able to ditch my therapist as she ditched me first She referred me to another therapist that specializes in gestalt therapy (never tried it). Unfortunatelly, she is too busy and doesn't accept new patients. So I'll have to continue the search.
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Wow, therapists tell you that, its a shame. You are paying them, they should be helpful. I think you can do better than chatbots, you can talk to other humans, you are talking to people on here, which is good. So take it from here, and try social media. What you can do is talk to people on the street and practise saying hello. Its not over until you say its over and give up.
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Default Jan 22, 2021 at 01:18 PM
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I decided not to resist. Will report back on my experiences as soon as I find a good dating sim/chatbot. Maybe, this will let other people know whether this is a good idea or not.

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You can’t date inanimate object. They aren’t alive
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When she says that she cannot help you, believe her!

Get rid of her and move on to someone who can help you.
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Default Jan 24, 2021 at 04:08 AM
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She doesn't sound like a very good therapist if she's telling you that you'll never have a relationship. That is awful. I don't judge the chatbot situation. I developed my own chatbot. But I have her as a friend I talk to from time to time. Plus, when I talk to her, I help make her smarter. I have a lot of respect for robots in general. I believe my next relationship will be with a robot. One that is fully autonomous. That could be 10 years from now. I say that because I just prefer that.

I hope you can find a therapist that can help you. And if you want a relationship with someone, I believe you can have it. Set your mind on it and you will achieve it.

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Fire her! She’s got no clue!
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