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Legendary Wise Elder
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#621
You send a text and an email once again giving the person a deadline, indicating and reminding what day they moved out and stating that you returned their deposit to them for ordering movers. Save email and a screenshots of a text. Also locate all previous texts re deadlines for moving stuff out
Follow up with a certified letter repeating the same thing. Couple of days before deadline send another reminder re deadline Whatever they didn’t move out by the deadline, you could do whatever you see fit. Dispose. Sell. Put in storage. That’s a routine procedure. I know you wanted to be nice. Not involve authorities. Not be nasty etc But being nice with these people gets you no where. Stop being nice. I don’t know anyone allowing people who don’t live there showing up repeatedly for months picking up their stuff. It’s disrespectful to you. It’s rude. Degrading. He doesn’t live there. It’s your place now. If you not there, he shouldn’t come in. Probably snooping. Even if not, he shouldn’t be there. Now he is killing bugs in your place. He doesn’t live there. And if you are there, he shouldn’t be going in and out either. He should be only allowed to come with movers one time, maybe two. That’s it. No back and forth. His back is not your problem. Stop discussing anything about blame and infidelity. Nothing to discuss anymore. It doesn’t matter what he accepts or not. These discussions only prolong drama. Inform him in writing of a procedure re moving stuff out and be done. He knows you aren’t going to do anything about the deadline because you are nice and he’ll be showing up for another 5 months picking up stuff. Well, being nice should be over like yesterday |
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Wise Elder
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#622
Thanks and I appreciate what you’re saying but I couldn’t force him to hire movers. He insisted on doing it all himself. I agree it’s disrespectful. I am trying to not discuss our relationship.
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#623
I don’t know how you deal with this. He is “insisting”. It’s not up to him. He got used to running the show. Omg. Keep reminding re deadline in writing
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Wise Elder
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#624
Well, like I said, I cannot force him to do anything. Yes, he got his way through all of this, except for being the one to have to move out. I won there.
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#625
Praying he’ll get his stuff out. You will be busy with a new job, you can’t deal with him and his nonsense. Fingers crossed
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#626
__________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#627
He's being such a bastard. I want nothing to do with him after this. He better freaking get his stuff out in the next week and 1/2. Once all his crap is out, I will have no reason to really talk to him. I just need him to get the divorce paperwork done so we can file for divorce ASAP.
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#628
He's saying he's done too now. Once again, he's trying to be in agreement with me when this whole time he's been pleading with me and trying to manipulate me back into the relationship.
I told him great, and get the hell out of my life. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#629
There is no reason for soon to be exes or exes talking to each other unless they have children. Of course you could be on talking terms so if you run into him in a grocery store you can say hello. Not talking doesn’t mean being nasty. But other than that there is really nothing to talk about. My ex husband is not a bad guy and we get along but we only maintained connection throughout the years because of our daughter and he is the father of my daughter’s younger siblings. We keep in touch only for that reason. Otherwise we’d have no reason and no interest to ever talk. What about?
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Wise Elder
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#630
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It' s a very contentious divorce. He is a manipulative conniving asshole. I loathe him and want NOTHING to do with him after this. There will be zero reason for us to be in touch, and I don't intend to maintain ANY contact with such a con man. He disgusts me. He is the most despicable man I have ever encountered. I am seething with hatred for him right now - I just want him out of my life for good. He can go rot in hell for all I care. He has turned every ounce of love I ever had for him into pure hatred. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#631
This divorce and moving out process is really wearing on me.
He texted last night about filing for taxes together and offered to split his refund with me. He's trying anything he can to see me in person. I said no, I plan on filing in April, and we may be divorced by then - maybe. I want to wait until April and I said I wanted to file as married but filing separate. He then asked if married filing jointly would be more advantageous and I said I don't know yet. He claims he made 100K - I think before taxes. I think he's lying. He was supposed to make close to 90K, not 100K. And after we fought the other day he says he wants to be friends - yeah, right. Once he's moved out, I have NO intentions of being "friends". I woke up bitter about his infidelity. I am just really worn out by all of this. I need for it to be over already. It's been 2 months of this crap. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#632
I wouldn’t call being upset and angry about the consequences of his infidelity “bitterness” (apologies if I already posted a similar comment here, but I think it bears repeating, especially with the prevailing cultural narratives around cheating that tend to favour - mostly the males - perps). I’d call it righteous anger for being put in a position where divorce was even something you’d consider. The whole thing is unfair on you (because none of it, aside from initiating divorce as a consequence of his choices, was your choice) and you’re entitled to be angry about it.
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Legendary Wise Elder
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#633
This story is forever a complete puzzle for me. How can someone making 90k is asking his wife for money every month? Couldn’t pay for his wedding? Couldn’t buy engagement ring with his own money? And can’t afford to hire movers? Cant afford to travel? Doesn’t have a penny saved? It’s not like he raised kids or something. Him not being good with money or having bankruptcy just isn’t explaining it. It has to be drugs that eating his salary. And it can’t be just pot and alcohol, although those are expensive. It has to be something more substantial, at least occasional heavy drug/cocaine use. I can’t wrap my mind around it. I’d not give a penny to people who make 90k of 100k because I’d likely enable drug or other bad and dangerous habits.
That’s why you do taxes with tax accountant. You ask them which way is more advantageous and they will show you Are lawyers milking you both for money, what the explanations for.not filing for divorce. This is so ridiculous |
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Wise Elder
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#634
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![]() I like how you put it - righteous anger. Perfectly stated! He tried to tell me the other day that it was RUDE of me to tear up all our printed pictures. Well, it was rude of HIM to be unfaithful!!! I couldn't believe he even tried to claim this to me. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Wise Elder
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#635
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I really don't know if he was doing cocaine the whole time we were together. I think I would have noticed. There's only so long one can hide a habit like that. And coke addicts are always sniffling... and the white powder shows in their nose hairs. I know this. It's very possible he went back to a former habit. I think he had more of a habit with cocaine before we got together than I even knew about. My own lawyer tried to milk me for more money even though he hadn't even made a phone call yet on my behalf to my husband's lawyer. He had written one single email so far and left one message for $500! Then he tried to milk me for $400 per hour when he failed to follow up with the other lawyer regarding the car lease. I am pissed. So it's my own lawyer's fault that filing for divorce has been delayed this long. That's what I get for hiring a cheap lawyer. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Wise Elder
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#636
IF I could, I would pay a lawyer the $1500 retainer to draw up the paperwork and file for divorce right now, but I am still on meagre unemployment benefits, I do not get my 1st paycheck until Feb 15th from my new job, and a good portion of my 1st paycheck has to go to expensive bills I must pay. Come March, I need to put away 2K per month in order to move out by Sept 1. I just worked out with my landlord that I will move residences by Sept 1. I have to save at least 6K or so in order to move out. So I have plans.....
So I have no choice right now but to stick with the a-hole cheap lawyer I hired given my finances and plans ahead. My husband tells me the paperwork should be completed next week in order to file for divorce. But, my lawyer and myself will need to review the divorce agreement 1st. Then I think I need to submit my own financial paperwork along with it so we can file. Yes, it's taking forever, but what other options did I have? I didn't want to break into my bank loan in order to hire an expensive lawyer and go deeper into debt. I already have high debt, and my plan is to pay it all off within the next year. Then start saving for retirement. I refuse to go deeper into debt because of this freaking divorce. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#637
The lawyer didn’t even call anybody yet all this time? He is dragging his feet
Yeah from what I heard daily pot usage costs hundreds of dollars a month I forgot he also eats out daily. Even if it’s eating cheaply, it would make one go broke if it’s every day and possibly more than once a day. This needs to be expedited one way or the other |
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Wise Elder
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#638
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As it is, there is not much for him left to do. I already worked out the car lease all on my own. All my lawyer needs to do is review the divorce agreement and negotiate any additional points that come up. And yes, my husband smokes a LOT of weed, so it's an expensive habit. I know it's not ideal, but as I outlined above, I really cannot afford to hire another lawyer. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Wise Elder
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#639
Him continuing to lean on the police as an excuse for his infidelity is total bs. I just remembered that after that incident he was totally love bombing me while he was hot in pursuit of HER. If He had truly been angry with me about calling the police, he wouldn’t have been love bombing me. He would have acted pissed off and distant. He’s soooooo full of it!
Do I confront him on this or leave it be and not bother? He’ll just lie even more and will deny it.. maybe there’s no point. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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#640
I see no point confronting him. You are divorcing so it makes no difference. He’ll lie anyways
He was love bombing maybe because he was in good spirits as he was courting other woman and she was giving him attention, it made him feel god so he was feeling all happy jolly. I’ve read somewhere that some cheaters act distant but some are actually acting all enamored with their spouses and so much into them because they are in good spirits due to love interest on a side. Sadly some want more intimacy at home because they are excited over someone else. Lots of cheaters don’t act turned off or distant with their spouses when they cheat, it’s often quite the opposite. That’s why it often comes as an ambush. |
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