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Default Apr 05, 2021 at 05:38 PM
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I wasn’t thinking about you. Instead I was focusing on these boyfriends and their consumption that could lead to problems. Not everyone that has problems with alcohol act drunk and learn to hide it.
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There's a reason you broke up with him twice before.
I would move on.

Wanting to get married is not a reason (not saying that's what you are doing) to settle, in life.

Yeah I didn’t say I want to get married , it’s the man I’ve been with who sees us being married in the future .

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I hear you re mom. Is she at least nice? My brother and I always planned on taking our mom in if dad passed first. But sadly she passed away before there was any need for that. She was so easy going, it would be a piece of cake to live with her and she’d not mind either. Our dad isn’t interested to move in, unless maybe he becomes incapacitated but he isn’t easy going at all. Is his mom easy to live with? I’d hate to live with anyone to be honest especially if it’s not my parents! But sometimes it has to be tolerated

I’ve been out of my moms house for decades .
It’s her house, not his, he didn’t take her in, he never left home except for college.
His dad died unexpectedly when he was planning to move out so he never followed through because he didn’t want to abandon his mom. I can see he loves her very much.
As some of you may know the man I was engaged to was married and when I found out he hadn’t filed for divorce I broke it off.
My most recent situation reminds me of that.
He always has to check in with his mom when he gets home and tries to make me participate every time. I hate it.

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I wasn’t thinking about you. Instead I was focusing on these boyfriends and their consumption that could lead to problems. Not everyone that has problems with alcohol act drunk and learn to hide it.

Well my ex fiancé never drank in front of me although his now ex wife implied he was a drinker. I don’t like the fact that the man I’ve been with has to drink every day, and more then one drink. Ultimately it could be a deal breaker although I’m not abstinent, I’m not a daily drinker and when I do drink I only have one.

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It sounds like possibly him being so attached to his mom makes him not fully available for a relationship.
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It sounds like possibly him being so attached to his mom makes him not fully available for a relationship.

Exactly ! It reminds me of my ex fiancé being married . We will see. It’s not necessarily his mom but the house .

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@leomamma from what you have shared of these two men it sounds like they both experience anxiety and withdraw and engage based on their need to have control of whatever or whomever they engage or interact with.

The use of alcohol and marijuana isn't about being drunk, but used as a coping aide for the challenge in someone who struggles when they feel they may not have control. When you share "its not his mother but the house that he is attached to", that could very well be true and it could be a little of both. What he is showing you is how he needs that environment/relationship because he has gained a sense of control from it. And when I say "control" that includes "predictable".

These individuals may present caring qualities and sensitivities you are attracted to, however, as time goes on there is a limit and often this presents as disconnecting. This isn't because you are unworthy either, but instead it's a form of limiting the part you have in their life.

When there is a consumption of alcohol or pot that has become a pattern for an individual often this began when younger and slowly became a gradual go to in order to cope with challenges. This tends to prevent the individual from maturing to where that individual gradually learned how to cope and gain a sense of control "naturally". So just because an individual doesn't present as "drunk" doesn't mean there is not a problem. However, often there is a lack of maturity that you begin to notice. Also, with this tends to come "relationship challenges" and that is because the individual prioritizes whatever they happen to use as a way to cope and the person tends to get uncomfortable when they feel they are losing control or a sense of predictable outcomes.

So your understanding of AUD or using pot in patterns isn't about the high as much as it's more about the constant need for some sense of control and dealing with whatever isn't predictable. With some of these individuals, there can be a very ANGRY part that can most definitely lash out, sometimes can even be dangerous. Often a person can hide that and then it comes out later in the relationship. That is because of how the person needs to embrace their own fairytale of whatever fits their needs.

What other members are trying to point out to you is how they detect something "off" about these two men that are not going to be able to give "you" what you need out of a relationship. Instead all you will be is whatever they decide is manageable for them. And it sounds like you end up being a codependent and enabler. That is not a healthy role to be in, but, something that's familiar to you that you have grown to accept that you shouldn't.
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@leomamma from what you have shared of these two men it sounds like they both experience anxiety and withdraw and engage based on their need to have control of whatever or whomever they engage or interact with.

The use of alcohol and marijuana isn't about being drunk, but used as a coping aide for the challenge in someone who struggles when they feel they may not have control. When you share "its not his mother but the house that he is attached to", that could very well be true and it could be a little of both. What he is showing you is how he needs that environment/relationship because he has gained a sense of control from it. And when I say "control" that includes "predictable".

These individuals may present caring qualities and sensitivities you are attracted to, however, as time goes on there is a limit and often this presents as disconnecting. This isn't because you are unworthy either, but instead it's a form of limiting the part you have in their life.

When there is a consumption of alcohol or pot that has become a pattern for an individual often this began when younger and slowly became a gradual go to in order to cope with challenges. This tends to prevent the individual from maturing to where that individual gradually learned how to cope and gain a sense of control "naturally". So just because an individual doesn't present as "drunk" doesn't mean there is not a problem. However, often there is a lack of maturity that you begin to notice. Also, with this tends to come "relationship challenges" and that is because the individual prioritizes whatever they happen to use as a way to cope and the person tends to get uncomfortable when they feel they are losing control or a sense of predictable outcomes.

So your understanding of AUD or using pot in patterns isn't about the high as much as it's more about the constant need for some sense of control and dealing with whatever isn't predictable. With some of these individuals, there can be a very ANGRY part that can most definitely lash out, sometimes can even be dangerous. Often a person can hide that and then it comes out later in the relationship. That is because of how the person needs to embrace their own fairytale of whatever fits their needs.

What other members are trying to point out to you is how they detect something "off" about these two men that are not going to be able to give "you" what you need out of a relationship. Instead all you will be is whatever they decide is manageable for them. And it sounds like you end up being a codependent and enabler. That is not a healthy role to be in, but, something that's familiar to you that you have grown to accept that you shouldn't.

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@leomamma from what you have shared of these two men it sounds like they both experience anxiety and withdraw and engage based on their need to have control of whatever or whomever they engage or interact with.

The use of alcohol and marijuana isn't about being drunk, but used as a coping aide for the challenge in someone who struggles when they feel they may not have control. When you share "its not his mother but the house that he is attached to", that could very well be true and it could be a little of both. What he is showing you is how he needs that environment/relationship because he has gained a sense of control from it. And when I say "control" that includes "predictable".

These individuals may present caring qualities and sensitivities you are attracted to, however, as time goes on there is a limit and often this presents as disconnecting. This isn't because you are unworthy either, but instead it's a form of limiting the part you have in their life.

When there is a consumption of alcohol or pot that has become a pattern for an individual often this began when younger and slowly became a gradual go to in order to cope with challenges. This tends to prevent the individual from maturing to where that individual gradually learned how to cope and gain a sense of control "naturally". So just because an individual doesn't present as "drunk" doesn't mean there is not a problem. However, often there is a lack of maturity that you begin to notice. Also, with this tends to come "relationship challenges" and that is because the individual prioritizes whatever they happen to use as a way to cope and the person tends to get uncomfortable when they feel they are losing control or a sense of predictable outcomes.

So your understanding of AUD or using pot in patterns isn't about the high as much as it's more about the constant need for some sense of control and dealing with whatever isn't predictable. With some of these individuals, there can be a very ANGRY part that can most definitely lash out, sometimes can even be dangerous. Often a person can hide that and then it comes out later in the relationship. That is because of how the person needs to embrace their own fairytale of whatever fits their needs.

What other members are trying to point out to you is how they detect something "off" about these two men that are not going to be able to give "you" what you need out of a relationship. Instead all you will be is whatever they decide is manageable for them. And it sounds like you end up being a codependent and enabler. That is not a healthy role to be in, but, something that's familiar to you that you have grown to accept that you shouldn't.

I didn’t see this but perhaps that it is fortuitous . As a result of deciding to put down alcohol and marijuana myself and get back into recovery I was able to break it off with my boyfriend last week. It wasn’t due to lack of feeling for him and I’m having a very rough time of it however I’m starting to see the light . He told me he has no desire to be sober. It’s kind of like ok. He sees marijuana as something positive even though I told him it seems to have triggered a hypo manic episode in me. He told me he seems my psychotropic drugs the way I see his marijuana and that marijuana is not a drug, so I know I made the right decision to break it off. It’s still sad. We were together for a year.
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