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Default Jun 19, 2021 at 07:42 PM
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Nobel point of view, but at the same time far from reality. It doesn't work like that these days. Have you been out there lately? I mean the dating scene.
It does work this way.

Yes I’ve been out there lol I got married at 50 second time so I did my share of dating. My daughter is in early 30s and is getting married, she did her share of dating of course. My future son in law is awesome with great personality and is very successful yet he is very short (shorter than her) and bold (prematurely). So what? I know many young people of all kind of looks are dating and enjoying their life.

I’ve met men who were convinced women don’t like them because they are short or fat or bold. Please. By this logic only models can find a date. There are usually other reasons why. Not the looks.
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Default Jun 19, 2021 at 07:45 PM
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Attraction is important in romantic relationship but attraction has nothing to do with looks. It comes from within. If it was only looks, only good looking people would be happy. But that’s simply not the case. All kind of people find love and romance and experience attraction and enjoy happiness
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Default Jun 19, 2021 at 09:19 PM
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Lol....Personally I want it all... good looks, personality, common sense & intelligence & someone who isn't a financial looser.

Exactly why I am staying single after a 33 year bad marriage

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Default Jun 19, 2021 at 10:22 PM
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It really depends on people. For me, personality is definitely more important. I've been at one singles' party before. I've instantly noticed the good-looking guys, but the moment they talked, I started losing interest. The ones whom I actually had conversations with were not the most handsome, but they were the ones who have depth in their character. Of course, there were guys who have both. Unfortunately, those kinds of guys were not interested in me as I didn't look as pretty as the other girls.
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I’ve always felt that looks are secondary. I say this because I’ve heard many guys and girls say they have a type.
“Oh she’s just my type”
“ He isn’t my type”
I don’t have a type. I seriously don’t. Over the course of my life I’ve dated men that were completely different as far as looks go. There are features I find sexy for example, I love a good jaw line and hands. Yes hands. There’s something about the shape of a man’s hands that gets me. But beyond those types of things personality trumps all of it. And it’s not just whether somebody is friendly or funny, I value intelligence the ability to debate and conversation.

But lately (over the last few years) it seems like people have been getting very shallow. I don’t really understand it because we all know as you get older your looks change. I’m not saying as you age you get ugly you just change. So if you’re a shallow person and you thought a girl with big bosoms and a big booty was super important . 20 years later maybe in those big booties and big bosoms wont be there or at least not in the way someone wanted.

And it bothers me when people pick other people apart with the idea of being joky or funny or in a group of people thinking that it makes them really funny.

I don’t know if it’s a groupthink sort of thing where a bunch of 20-year-old guys and girls get together and are like “OMG he is so hot!” Followed by “no he’s so not my type he’s so ugly.” I know this happens with groups of guys but I don’t want to stereotype and I’m not a guy so maybe some other guys can shed light on that sort of groupthink experience.

I’m more of a humanist or at least I like to carry empathy on my shoulders. And it’s hard for me to believe that luxe matter as much as they seem to. But then you have apps where you swipe right or left 10 seconds apart from each other so looks have to be an important thing yes? I guess it’s easier for me to have perspective because I’ve been married 25 years. It was love at first sight with my husband and I know I’m very fortunate. I know I’m very lucky because relationships are so hard for so many people. I realize many people don’t have the experience that I have had.

But the idea of people being lonely simply because their “looks “don’t measure up to what society says or what shallow and vapid men or women say pains me.

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Ok hang on, I’m one of the “beautiful people” and I just told my ex boyfriend who’s also quite handsome tonight that I felt lonely. I hate to say this but there’s a certain kind of problem that comes with being a beautiful person, outer, not inner. And consequently it’s how I got into a relationship with someone who interiorly isn’t right for me: “looks”.
Now I know I could not compete with someone half my age in the looks department because there’s a certain beauty that comes with youth, so I would say it’s harder to be an older “beautiful “ person. I just read an article about salma Hayek and the pressure to stay thin even though the body changes as it ages…
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Attraction is important in romantic relationship but attraction has nothing to do with looks. It comes from within. If it was only looks, only good looking people would be happy. But that’s simply not the case. All kind of people find love and romance and experience attraction and enjoy happiness

I agree and I would say looks sometimes get in the way of happiness , as I shared previously , I just got out of a relationship with someone who isn’t right for me, there was love and romance , but not happiness, not for me, and both of us are beautiful/handsome people .

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Lol....Personally I want it all... good looks, personality, common sense & intelligence & someone who isn't a financial looser.

Exactly why I am staying single after a 33 year bad marriage

Ouch. I don’t think I will be that harsh but I definitely need someone who’s financially independent in the sense of being a full on adult.

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Default Jun 19, 2021 at 11:52 PM
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When I was 15 I was dating a jock and he was sooo cute BUT I soon found out he had the intelligence of a rock. Then I had this epiphany (or at least it seemed like one at 15 lol) If I'm only attracted to someone for their looks or money that someone can be in an accident and be horrifically scarred or that person could have a change of circumstances and lose it all. If I like them for their personality well short of a brain injury or something along those lines that doesn't usually change. So I decided right then and there to do my best to forget about looks and focus on personality.

I'm not saying I don't notice if someone is attractive (in my eyes, to each their own) but if they don't have personality forget it. In my experience liking someone's personality makes them attractive to me. I think I am in the minority though.

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Default Jun 20, 2021 at 02:38 AM
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It depends on the type of relationship one is seeking. I am now seeking just lovers who are friends. So, for me, a nice build and looks to some extent are important. The dating app online world is rather superficial and most men have chosen me based on my appearance. So, I know this because they keep talking about my appearance initially, instead of my job or personality. I am nice to a certain extent and this seems to be not a factor for some guys. I have been on dating apps off and on for about four years and it is a very superficial world out there. Because of this, I don't recommend online dating apps to anyone. I have been also called fat -one time, after I met the man - I am curvy so this may be called fat. But, I looked at him and he was a short bald fat man himself. I was glad he was turned off by me as I was to him. Most people on the dating apps online use photos that are really old or photoshop their pics. They also lie on their profiles about their age. One man was about 75 and said he was in his 60s.. So, it is highly recommended to meet in person right away to see how the person really looks like in reality and see if there is any chemistry. So far, I have had only one rejection based on looks but have been rejected a few times because I am not from the country I am living in. But, who cares?

I am currently seeing a former soccer player and am satisfied. He is nice and decent as well as tall and well-built. I don't know how it will turn out but so far, he is good to me so I guess although I like his looks, how one treats the other is equally as important. Some people are nice personally and this is great but I'm looking for sparks and fireworks when I meet someone initially. Truthfully, looks are important initially but afterwards, the veneer rubs off and there has to be more than looks to keep a relationship going. So, if someone has both looks and a decent personality, then this is the best combination. Of course, having a decent job and a rather healthy lifestyle are factors too. So, one can't base a relationship on just looks and personality since there are many factors to a good relationship. I sound if I am experienced in relationships but am not. I have had only bad ones so know from my mistakes that I must feel attracted to the person and also get along with him. I'm becoming wiser but so far I have never had a good relationship so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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I’ve met men who were convinced women don’t like them because they are short or fat or bold. Please. By this logic only models can find a date. There are usually other reasons why. Not the looks.
So why do I meet success with women ten times easier when I'm in shape?
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So why do I meet success with women ten times easier when I'm in shape?
Because it makes you feel good about yourself which in turn boosts your self confidence. Now THAT women notice. Self confidence is almost as sexy as intelligence.

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Looks fade in time, but who you are, personality etc........is what is important.
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I agree and I would say looks sometimes get in the way of happiness , as I shared previously , I just got out of a relationship with someone who isn’t right for me, there was love and romance , but not happiness, not for me, and both of us are beautiful/handsome people .

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How do looks get in the way of happiness? I am a good looking woman and come from long line of good looking people (although it changes with age of course) it never interfere in our happiness in any shape or form and why would it? I am not making a connection here. Some good looking people are happy and some aren’t but not because of looks
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Because it makes you feel good about yourself which in turn boosts your self confidence. Now THAT women notice. Self confidence is almost as sexy as intelligence.
Right. They see my confidence before I open my mouth. They see my confidence when I walk past them on the street. They see my confidence when I'm sitting at the bar and staring at the wall when they're 20 feet away. That's some deeper level of BS, no offense.

Let me gain few pounds, ignore my skin care routine for two weeks and wear some random clothes and then we'll see how far my confidence's gonna get me
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Looks fade in time, but who you are, personality etc........is what is important.
Looks change over time. I've always been attractive and that hasn't changed. I have some wrinkles, and a few light brown spots which are the result of my sun worship as a teenager. Other than that my hair is natural and so far not a grey in sight.

Oh and I can still rock a corset. 😋

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Ouch. I don’t think I will be that harsh but I definitely need someone who’s financially independent in the sense of being a full on adult.

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Lol....in otherwords....I don't need a man in my life to make my life complete

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Right. They see my confidence before I open my mouth. They see my confidence when I walk past them on the street. They see my confidence when I'm sitting at the bar and staring at the wall when they're 20 feet away. That's some deeper level of BS, no offense.

Let me gain few pounds, ignore my skin care routine for two weeks and wear some random clothes and then we'll see how far my confidence's gonna get me
I agree with you, BB. At first sight people notice your looks. However, it is subjective as to what people consider attractive. Then they notice personality. Sometimes, it could be the other way around, but both looks and personality are factors in someone’s attraction to another. Someone may say they haven’t a care about a person’s looks, only their personality to choose as a romantic partner…I say “That’s incredible!”

When I met my college bf, at first glance he was a short, thin, but cute guy dressed in a leather jacket and punk look (early 80’s) who was carrying on a gambling game in the dorm hallway! I was attracted to both looks and personality equally at once. He was edgy, he was outrageous, different from anyone I had previously known, interesting, and cute and sexy. This was all subjective to my opinion.

I agree with the poster who said it depends on what kind of relationship you want. For someone looking only for sex, then physical attraction obviously is most all that is taken into account, I suppose. Maybe if they had a horrid personality, the person wouldn’t even stand them for a one night thing.

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Looks are subjective like Tisha said and also looks are very much culturally/ethnically defined. There is no such thing as universally good looks. Even talking about weight, in some cultures heavier set woman is considered much more appealing than a thin one. Some people consider others good looking if their features conform to main stream majority of the population’s standard. And so on and so forth
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Lol....Personally I want it all... good looks, personality, common sense & intelligence & someone who isn't a financial looser.

Exactly why I am staying single after a 33 year bad marriage
To clarify my comment, this only has to do with a marriage partner. I worked in an mostly all male career & got along & enjoyed (& still do), the company & friendship of all kinds of guys. Not many subjects I don't know enough about to have good conversations. Looks has nothing to do with it. Personality does but really if they can have good conversations great. Just not letting anyone into my shared personal space unless they are perfect which is basically saying. NOT LOOKING, NOT INTERESTED

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Well it’s like seeing a room that looks good and everything is fine. Yet it’s not a room that is inviting and cozy and warm. Then there is the room that’s like country cozy with a fire lit that you want to go into and sit down in because it’s warm and inviting. It’s ok if it’s a tad messy because that doesn’t take away from how warm and cozy it is to spend time in and put ones feet up and relax. It is a room that one wants to spend time in verses just looking at where it’s too fancy to sit comfortably in.

A beautiful person is a person who can see you and a person that is comfortable to sit with and perfection doesn’t matter. It’s like that cozy room with a warm fire that is so relaxing and comfy to spend time in. 😉
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