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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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So, I have been back and forth with this for months, but I have to hold myself accountable. I reached out to my husband on a Google Voice number when I had a really bad day at work, (I almost quit), because I needed the reassurance and the comfort that I know he could give me, hence my relapse in this toxic addiction to this man.
Obviously, it was a bad move. Fast forward just four days, and he already sold his Medicaid card with his foodstamps on it and also sold the third cell phone in two months. When will I learn? I changed my number, I blocked him everywhere, why do I hold on to this man? Is it the letters he sends me in the mail? Is the memories I hold onto? Accountability starts now. I must accept that this is a dead-end toxic relationship that I can't make excuses for anymore. I just wish my heart wasn't so broken and I wasn't such in a vulnerable state. God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change........ I must accept that this is who is he is and always was. I must accept that I deserve better than this. I must accept that I am the one holding the whip and whipping myself in this relationship.... __________________ Tales of Love, Motivation, and An Interesting Journey - Please Subscribe to my Website on WordPress: Inspired Odyssey's Path to Wellness and Love |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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((( LadyShadow )))
It sounds like you're in the process of grieving. Allow yourself the time and space to grieve. According to Natalie Lue of Baggage Reclaim, one grieves the loss of an old identity. grieving the loss of your relationship Archives - Baggage Reclaim with Natalie Lue |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Thanks so much @TheGal - it's been a struggle for sure. I like the article you shared, it really put things into perspective. Looking forward to my CODA meeting tomorrow, I think it will help a lot.
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The CoDA meeting will no doubt help., LadyShadow...
Let us know how you're doing with your process... You are very brave... hang on to that... |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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I really appreciate your support @TheGal - from what I know he is still out there using drugs. He is playing with his life hurting those who love him. I dread that phone call one day - but at the same time, I wish him peace. He has been tortured for so long. But all I can do is move on with my life and take care of myself.
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I'm sorry you are in the painful process of detaching from someone you thought would be your main source of love and warmth. I went through something like that myself. I had spent seven years living with a man who drank too much. When it got to where he was coming home drunk every second night, I was getting crazy. He borrowed my car to get to work. After he left, his supervisor at work called. She said she was really sorry he didn't feel well, but they were short at the job and could he possibly make it in. I walked to the nearest bar and saw my car parked outside. I went in and took the keys from him. A few days later, I moved into a separate apartment of my own. I was heartbroken moving out. I still loved him. Your husband sounds somewhat like my boyfriend. My guy had trouble holding a job and had a history of drinking himself into homelessness, repeatedly. I worried what would happen to him. Plus when he was sober, he was my best friend in the world.
Getting away from him worked out way better than I expected. I told him we could still be friends, but that I would have nothing to do with him while he was drinking. Well, our story had a surprising ending. Within two years, he got very sick and decided to stop drinking. We got close again. Our relationship survived, and we had many years together, until he passed away. I'm glad I had never married him. If I had, we would have ended up divorced. That would have been the end of our relationship. Instead, I kept my options open. You are married, and that changes things a bit. Still, I don't know that you have to limit yourself to two options - stay married and put up with his craziness, or exit the marriage and never have anything to do with him again. If your husband has been a source of reassurance and comfort, as you say, then I wouldn't characterize your attachment to him as "toxic addiction." It sounds like the two of you have been in love. Love, alone, is not a sufficient reason to stay with someone. I left my guy, even though I still loved him. Toxic is a word that can mean all kinds of different things. I don't like using that word because it's awfully imprecise. I'm sure there are very specific ways of behaving on his part that make him impossible to build a life with. You listed some specific things he's done that leave me convinced that he is very irresponsible and incapable of being much of a partner. Focus on those specific behaviors, as why you need to cut yourself loose from this partnership. It's even okay for you to still love him. But you have to physically separate yourself from him and his profound problems. Clearly, he has very big problems, related to really bad choices he's been making and intends to keep making. I got to a point where I told my guy, "I love you, and I'll pray for you. However, I cannot be with you." It sounds like that's where you're at. You don't have to despise him. You don't have to treat him, or talk about him, with contempt. But you need to get your life free of the craziness he brings to it. He sounds like a guy who will bring craziness into the lives of anyone who he is involved with. You're probably not the only person who doesn't want him around. His presence is going to be welcomed only by others who live as crazy as he does. I'm not saying you should give him false hope that you're standing by, waiting for him to straighten out. That may never happen. You have a right to move on. |
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I think the ^ is sound and practical advice from someone who has walked in your shoes, LadyShadow.
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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I can't tell you enough how I appreciate your words @Rose76 - there is no doubt that there is love there, I always thought that love was all you needed to make a relationship work, but now I see how wrong that is now. Your experience helps shed a lot of light on what is happening right now with us. I am so glad you were finally able to come back together with your guy, and I can only hope that maybe one day we will be able to come together again.
I have reserved myself to the fact that it's really over. He reappeared last night at his mom's house, and she called the sheriff to have him taken to the psych ward. The days ahead will be hard because he has nowhere to go, and no one wants to be around him because of all the craziness like you noticed. This includes me. I need to move on, you're right about that, I deserve that much. __________________ Tales of Love, Motivation, and An Interesting Journey - Please Subscribe to my Website on WordPress: Inspired Odyssey's Path to Wellness and Love |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Feeling a bit sad today. I know I cut the cord, but my mind wanders on my husband a lot. I keep thinking of him in that hospital, lost, alone and without me. It hurts a lot, my mind tells me this is the absolute right decision that I am doing, but my heart is just broken.
The fact of the matter is, there was no lack of love between us - a friend of mind told me that what me and my husband had was passion not real love, real love has a foundation and respect for one another built over time - something I need to learn to have for myself. Still I am feeling bad. I miss him so much, and as the days pass, the pain gets less, but overall I haven't had to deal with a broken heart in a really long time. It's just healing from here. But right now, I am hurting. __________________ Tales of Love, Motivation, and An Interesting Journey - Please Subscribe to my Website on WordPress: Inspired Odyssey's Path to Wellness and Love |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Backtracking a lot today. Broke down and texted his mom to see how he was doing. She gave me the payphone numbers at the hospital where he's at. It is taking every last ounce of strength to not call, but I'm not. Going to try and stay busy and pray about it. I need help, I feel like a drug addict myself right now.
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Having a better day today. Did not reach out and call him when last night I really thought I would. His mom called me this morning to apologize for giving me those payphone numbers because she knew I was trying to keep my distance. I am doing the best I can, but it really feels like giving up a really bad drug habit, and I am going through withdrawals.
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Delete those numbers.
Tear down the paper those numbers are written on and throw it out. Get 'addicted' to something else such as your own mental and emotional wellbeing and a chance at happiness. Then (re)-commit to it. Every single day. Moment to moment. |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Thanks so much @Rive. I needed to see that. I have been going back and forth for a bit, but the nails got driven on the coffin of this relationship today when I went through the humiliating experience of going down to jail to give my DNA for probation for these horrible charges that I carry that my husband got away with. If ever I needed a reminder that it's absolutely crazy to hold on to this man, this was it.
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I guess I am thankful that I was so fed up with my husband when I left I didn't care if i ever saw or talked to him again. When it gets to that point it's easy to not be addicted even though it was my first time ever living alone at 54.
He did come to my farm with my daughter for Christmas that year (long story). Nice Christmas but it just reinforced why I left & I kicked him out early in Jan & never saw him again for 11 years. Had mail forwarded to my farm for that christmas trip. Good thing or he would have covered up the 2nd notice from the IRS. Good thing he was 2100 miles away when I found out he covered up the first notice. It was strange to never miss someone I had been with for 33 years but it was such a relief to be outta there I only thought about establishing my new life in a new town where I didn't know anyone. It was a good way to start the 2nd half of my life over. __________________ ![]() Leo's favorite place was in the passenger seat of my truck. We went everywhere together like this. Leo my soulmate will live in my heart FOREVER Nov 1, 2002 - Dec 16, 2018 |
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It's not easy to "unlove" someone. Actually you don't have to unlove him. You mainly need to just stay detached from him. In time your warm emotions will cool down. Keeping away from him will help that to happen.
He's going to have worsening problems. As his life spins further out of control, you'll be increasingly glad that you're not tied to such a loser. I'm afraid that's what he is. It may be that this is all he is capable of right now. No need to judge him. You only have to judge whether his way of living is acceptable to you. If it were, you'd be headed in a bad direction yourself. |
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I have never had an addiction, which I am aware of, but the closest large metropolitan to me, had a place that medically detoxed folks. It was for low income people without proper medical insurance. When I was still healthy enough to do it, I volunteered 15-20 hours/week there. I will tell you, places like that love to see medical doctors, who will volunteer walk through the doors. I did this for some time, we received extra training and I learned all about AA and NA. For those suffering from addiction, those in your life that still do that, are kind of like a black hole in space. They will hold you and you will never get away from it, under that kind of pull and still being exposed to it. This is one of those times when a person just simply must put themselves and their health at the top of the hierarchy of things, and pull away from them. It can be painful but there are just times in life where YOU MUST COME FIRST TO YOU. Addiction is a disease that each person who has one must deal with it themselves. It is a hard process and dead weight on your back like that makes it virtually impossible. It is not being selfish, it is being prudent and practicing common sense.
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Just want to send strength and comfort your way! I believe you may be codependent with this ex of yours and also trauma bonded. Look up the trauma bond. It forms in the victims of abuse and functions exactly like an addiction, whereby you feel you can’t get by without them and need them. It’s the false promises of change that keep the abuse victim bonded and hopeful. Work on self love and healing. It’s the pathway forward. Fill yourself up with all that you enjoy about life. Get out there and live!!! You were in jail, you’re free now. Soak up that freedom and steer clear of this toxic thing/relationship. Focus on YOU…
By doing that, you break the trauma bond and the addiction to him. See him for who he truly is. Don’t hold onto potential. Let go. It’s not healthy for you. Focus on health, recovery and making progress forward. My words of advice, having been in a severely abusive marriage and after breaking free of my addiction to my ex. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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Wanderer of Distant Stars
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Thanks so much you guys for all the wonderful advice! Every day gets better and better, although there are thoughts of him that creep in. I think the problem @Rose76 is that I was trying to unlove him when now I know that is quite impossible. Just accepting that I have to detach myself from him is the real reality that I have to face.
Thanks for all the strength and comfort @Have Hope - I do believe we have a trauma bond, and on my other thread about this I talk a lot about CODA - I try to go to a Codependency Anonymous group at least once a week. I absolutely know I am codependent, I've known for a long time, just never did anything about it, or even owned up to it. I know I am addicted too, because two weeks ago when I called him, I immediately felt a rush of relief, as if I took a hit of a drug or something - as good as that feeling was, I identified right away because that feeling felt all too familiar. It has been exactly 10 days since I have spoken to him, and each day gets easier. I celebrated my three-year sober anniversary yesterday with friends and have been trying my best to enjoy life post relationship. Some days are better than others, but my mind does drift on him from time to time. __________________ Tales of Love, Motivation, and An Interesting Journey - Please Subscribe to my Website on WordPress: Inspired Odyssey's Path to Wellness and Love |
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