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I understand your choice of keeping options open much better now. It makes sense. Maybe a flexible ticket or going on your own exploration is a good idea too. It sounds like you are mentally prepared with alternative options of escape. Plus if they live somewhat chaotic lives, maybe planning isn’t needed. Trust me I know about not choosing relatives. Not Waltons here either. We are a dysfunctional combination of rather distant connections with some relatives with whom we should be close. And unnecessary drama with others. It’s all mostly civil on surface. Not so much underneath. So I get it. PS your brother in law is a piece of work. Both my sisters in law are rather strange, to say the least. So I hear you Rose |
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I really don't have a lot of money to throw around. If I do find myself getting a hotel room and a car out there, it will be a sad commentary on my family. I shouldn't have to. I will try my darnedest to accommodate what anyone suggests and be as little bother to anyone as possible. My sisters and I are all mature, retired women. Their kids are grown up adults. This should work out smoothly, if we all try to be reasonable. I'm making a trip to see my brother's remains laid to rest with some dignity and some respect for his humanity, despite how troubled he was in life. I'm doing the very best I know how. Each day, I cry thinking about him and what addiction and mental illness did to him. I may be the only one shedding tears over him. That's okay. They can at least be nice to me, when I get there. I kind of think they will be. If not, I'll vanish so fast from their midst, there won't be time for any arguing.
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My sister (the one who plans) texted me with photos of my brother in his younger days. We're deciding on a picture to put by the urn during the committal ceremony. In some of the pictures, he looks strong and happy, holding his beloved dog and smiling. He looks handsome.
At first, I felt glad to see him looking healthy and happy . . . glad to be reminded that his life was not always alcohol, drugs, disease and misery. Now I can't stop sobbing. I want my brother back how he used to be . . . before some demon invaded him. I grieve alone. No phone calls from sisters. Texts. Just texts . . . from one sister. From the other - nothing. She texted back many days ago, "Let me know if I can help." Well, she'll get her chance. My sisters don't like displays of raw emotion, so I won't bother them. I want to call my cousin because she's emotional like me and would understand the pain I'm in. But, then, she would want to be included in the final arrangements and want to come to the cemetery. That would upset the applecart for what my sister has planned that is just for immediate family. There's no one else I can call. So I'm just alone with memory and grief. I loved him very much. My brother died believing no one loved him. I went to the hospital. He wouldn't let me help him. A close cousin of mine died before Christmas. We were very close, growing up near each other. He cared about my brother. He too had a drug addicted brother who died tragically. This was a cousin I could go to. His wife gave me a key to their house. She was like a sister to me. If they were still alive, I would be on the phone with them now. I've had a lot of loss in recent years. I was doing pretty good. But not today. I'm a wreck now. I've thought of going to an Al-Anon meeting tonight, thinking they would understand. It's at an AA club that my brother may even have attended. He used to go to AA a lot, even when he couldn't stay sober. I might find someone who knew him. I wish I had somewhere to go. |
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I think your brother knew that he was loved. Unfortunately addiction took over his life and he just couldn’t show it or didn’t want people to bother just because he was not well. He knew he was unwell. I think it might help you if you do something symbolic: like plant a bush in his memory, donate to drug prevention cause (even if just $5), plant a tree (there is the service that does it for you), you might feel more closure. Would that help? |
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Thank you. I just realized I haven't eaten all day. Some food would be a good idea.
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This is a tree service, you can choose national Forest. I do for all relatives. I just did for my dear aunt who passed this year. Plant a Tree Gift - Memorial Trees - Plant a Tree in a National Forest |
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Thank you, divine. It's a nice idea.
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Our family tradition is to not show emotion and not be too nice to anyone who does. It only encourages more emotion. That doesn't reflect my own values. I am very emotional. But I've learned to mostly keep it to myself.
I desperately wanted to call someone a few hours ago. I decided that getting rebuffed would just make me feel a lot worse, so not worth the risk. Yesterday, I went to my appointment with the psychologist. I see him about once a month. Since November, worsening depression has been a problem. Finally, in February, I told my primary care doctor that I wanted a referral for some help. I hadn't asked for help in a few years. They don't seem to take me seriously when I do. I've been improving, though it feels like slogging my way up a steep hill with a load of rocks on my back. The psychologist said he thinks I'm making progress. Yesterday and today, I slid backwards. I could have stayed okay with some caring support from someone in my family. I wouldn't dare ask for that. They just don't know what that means. Discussing feelings is Verboten. Not that I want to bend anyone's ear for long, boring them with the travails of my recent life. My existence is of no great importance, nor of much interest. I have no delusions to the contrary. It is what I've made it, for better or worse. At least I can come here to MSF to express things and get some response. So much tiredness goes with feeling this low. All I'm wanting is the bed. |
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Today was awful. Then my cousin called me. She wants me to spend time staying with her, when I travel to where my family is. That was nice to hear.
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I'm having a very hard time. I feel so bad for my brother. If only he could have believed how much I cared about him.
I'm sorry for how much he suffered. He was very lonely. He drove people away from him. He made bad decisions. I still loved him. I'm very lonely myself right now. I've been working on that. I've been finding activities. I went to a neighborhood meeting and decided I would volunteer at the next meeting. That's my plan for overcoming the depression that grips me so often. A lot of it is way too much aloneness. My brother was fighting the same problem, but he chose all the wrong ways of doing that. He really doomed himself. I'm more sensible. Still, I'm having a real hard time right now. I wish I were not alone. |
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Try not to feel alone. I am" here"in this spot with you. An Amazon meeting is not a bad idea. Too much alone news is not a good thing. I hope things go well with your family, but humans being humans means some unpredictability when everyone is at their best. Not making excuses foe bad behavior,but thirty+ years working in human services ha been my greatest teacher. Get out as much as you can even if its 10 man bites in the sun. Please check in when needed..I will try to be there shortly.
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Thank you, Deejay. It's true that human behavior is never totally predictable. I think it's best to not have real specific expectations. Better to stay loose and flexible and deal with what comes up, as it comes up. My main need is to avoid reacting too fast and remember that "no reaction" is always an option and sometimes the best one.
I know this is a holiday weekend and people have family doings to enjoy. I'll continue being alone and may come here to post. Not because I expect constant attention. It helps me to make a record of what's going on. It helps me take a look at myself and my approach and how it is or isn't working for me. Me being alone is something I can do a lot about. I've started and I'm committed to it. I see the psychologist about once a month. That's what we focus on: what am I doing to make connections? The centerpiece of my program is a daily calendar where I am trying to lay out plans of what I have decided to do. I have to do better at that. Otherwise, I just fritter away hours and hours, doing nothing that I get real satisfaction from. My goal is to do more planning and hold myself accountable for following through. That's where the psychologist has a role. I need him to hold my feet to the fire a bit. I don't need a therapist to soft-soap me, give me affirmations or tell me how I'm trying and need to get credit for my efforts. I give myself plenty of credit. But I need to not persevere doing what doesn't work. When I talk out loud about what I'm doing, it's clearer where I've been dropping the ball. I hate that I've been all alone for days, but I planned nothing, so here I am. I don't have to live so isolated. This death of my brother happened and I was not expecting this. Now that I've got the arrangements in place, grief just came crashing down on me. He's gone, and that's final. He was such a talker. Now he will be silent. I almost can't even believe it. My life is too full of silence, except for the tinnitis. That seems to get worse and worse. I need to start thinking about a hearing aid. I just have to get thru a few more days. Then I'll be on the plane. Then events will carry me along. Then I'll come back and work on my program to bust out of the shell I tend to be in. Next a warm soak in the tub. Tomorrow I must get out of this house. Maybe find an Al-Anon meeting to attend. I have to find people to be with. It may work out that my family will be nice, and my visit may go just fine. I'll probably keep it shorter than I was considering. My cousin called again this eve, which I really appreciated. I would like to stay with her for a few days. Maybe I can work that in. Now I'm tired. |
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Good morning Rose, I think you have a good perspective on th days ahead of you. I hope your family surprises you in all the best ways and all goes well. So happy to read that the psychologist is helping you in the way most useful to you.
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Busy yesterday. But, today, I did nothing. It has left me feeling bad.
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Easy to say don't feel bad but from personal experience I have many days where I basically do nothing but dog care & then I have days like yesterday where I was on the go from 7:30am to 9:30pm & if I stop on a day like that I don't get started again so I get everything on my to do list done in one day.....then I don't feel as guilty about doing nothing again
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I have a problem with feeling guilty when do nothing. Unless I am sick I feel that I am not allowed to do nothing. I am trying to get better.
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It is a good thing to get better at because life is to be enjoyed not feeling guilty about __________________ Leo's favorite place was in the passenger seat of my truck. We went everywhere together like this. Leo my soulmate will live in my heart FOREVER Nov 1, 2002 - Dec 16, 2018 |
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Yeah it’s perfectly ok to do nothing and enjoy free time |
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My visit is going well. I kind of miss being home, but it's nice to be around family.
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