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AdvocateWeb was a great help for me in my process of filing a complaint and gaining my ground. They were very supportive emotionally and gave me a lot of helpful information. The most helpful resource by far. They also used to have a forum which I enjoyed a lot. Later it was closed, unfortunately.
I wish I knew about it 7 years ago
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I agree with all of the above, except for saying move on if there has been no progress after 4 or 5 sessions.
If you like the T, but things aren't moving along immediately I would suggest that even starting to undo a lifetime of issues/ denial/ abuse / avoidance. Will take longer than a few session.
However if your not feeling it, maybe discuss before moving on. They may have an idea of someone better suited to you.
Just wanted to say the above wasn't meant to be posted here. Apologies for any confusion, my early morning/still sleeping replies may have caused.
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I basically just went on google search right after I realized that I was fundamentally damaged by my ex-T and found TELL and AdvocateWeb to be the only sources there at that time, it was 6 years ago. I connected with TELL first. Had a mixed experience. Then I went on AW forum and it was awesome. So much helpful practical information about all you needed to know if you wanted to sue the T or to file a complaint. The woman who led the project at the time was very knowledgeable. She provided the names of the lawyers to consult with. I consulted with one of them and he was very helpful.
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i remember searching it a lot, even when i was with my Former T. i could never really find any information. even when i was with him i knew it was wrong and was trying to seek help..

this was in 2008-2010
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Ethical Principles of Psychologists and Code of Conduct

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10.08 Sexual Intimacies with Former Therapy Clients/Patients
(a) Psychologists do not engage in sexual intimacies with former clients/patients for at least two years after cessation or termination of therapy.
(b) Psychologists do not engage in sexual intimacies with former clients/patients even after a two-year interval except in the most unusual circumstances. Psychologists who engage in such activity after the two years following cessation or termination of therapy and of having no sexual contact with the former client/patient bear the burden of demonstrating that there has been no exploitation, in light of all relevant factors, including (1) the amount of time that has passed since therapy terminated; (2) the nature, duration, and intensity of the therapy; (3) the circumstances of termination; (4) the client's/patient's personal history; (5) the client's/patient's current mental status; (6) the likelihood of adverse impact on the client/patient; and (7) any statements or actions made by the therapist during the course of therapy suggesting or inviting the possibility of a posttermination sexual or romantic relationship with the client/patient. (See also Standard 3.05, Multiple Relationships.)
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Professional Therapy Never Includes Sex

Professional Therapy Never Includes Sex - California Department of Consumer Affairs
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First published in 1989 much of it's information is relevant today.

'It’s never ok : a handbook for professionals on sexual exploitation by counselors and therapists'

https://www.leg.state.mn.us/docs/pre...her/890492.pdf
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Copied and pasted from my own personal thread, here's what I've spent time writing and researching. It would be great to get more helpful links, if you care to share. Here's what I wrote earlier today:

I've had my own dealings with two abusive therapists, one abusive pastoral counselor, and one abusive mentor in the psychology field. Thankfully, I've also had enough wonderful therapists, pastors, and mentors in my life to understand the differences between what is healthy and what is not. It took me some time to understand these concepts, however.

Throughout my life, I've also experienced vicarious/secondary traumas via hearing so many others' laments about their abusive therapists, teachers, professors, mentors, supervisors, significant others, toxic friends, and/or parents - many of the same traumas I can identify with in my past. Although the emphases on prevention through detection of childhood maltreatment points to the potential etiologies of why victims often get revictimized throughout their lifespans, there remains a lack of research on adulthood abuses, particularly those that involve professional hierarchies, including therapists.

When I read the following articles (listed below), I finally felt relief for my secondary traumas as well as my direct traumatic victimizations. Finally, some professionals banded together to address the traumatic issues that often remain secrets. Finally, there's some justice-seeking advocates who are helping victims of non-crimes (in this case, emotional abuse in psychotherapy) stand up for themselves when no one else will. Finally, someone addresses emotional abuse as a form of victimization, not just mere slights.

Here's the (first) article: First, Do No Harm: Abusive Psychotherapists | Psychopaths and Love

One story that is mentioned in the article concerns the ironic hardships that victims face when seeking treatment for therapy abuse. The institution that traumatized victims is the primary institution to also help them. However, many in the helping fields tend to victim-blame instead of help in cases like these. These helping professionals, like so many institutional "family members," tend to stick up for their own, so it's common for those within the psychological institution to disbelieve lamenting victims of therapy abuse, and therefore not treat them for their specific traumas. Therapy rooms, and therapists as well, are trauma triggers for victims who experienced therapy abuse. Sadly, victim-blaming through placing the responsibility on the victims' character only retraumatizes them further, as opposed to decreasing the effects of trauma through validation and belief in their therapy abuse victimizations. Clearly, there needs to be more training, research, and treatments available for victims of therapy abuse. But when? How?

Here are some additional links found both within the article referenced above as well as in additional articles I found on various Google searches:

Therapy Abuse (TELL) Website:

TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
https://www.therapyabuse.org/RS_sugreadings.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/t2-under...rapy-abuse.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/p2-emoti...in-therapy.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/p2-sexua...chotherapy.htm

Counselling Resource Website:

https://counsellingresource.com/feat...d-trauma-more/
https://counsellingresource.com/feat...nduced-trauma/
https://counsellingresource.com/feat...usive-therapy/

RAINN:

https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexua...-professionals

Dr. George Simon Website:

https://www.drgeorgesimon.com/seriou...derstand-them/

PsychCentral:

https://psychcentral.com/blog/your-p...ts-in-therapy/
https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-the...exploiting-me/
https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-the...her-therapist/

Psychiatric Times:

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/art...oundary-issues

Psychopaths and Love Website:

http://psychopathsandlove.com/first-...erapy/#respond

Surviving Therapist Abuse Website:

http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.com/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...tes-and-links/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.com/my-story/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...iming-my-life/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...use-checklist/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...nt-no-more.pdf

Professional Articles:

https://psychotherapy.psychiatryonli....1997.51.3.357
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...30698800109583
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12465637
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...onal_standards
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/689...1c4128a06d.pdf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1991.tb00862.x
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1992-20656-001

Los Angeles Times:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...103-story.html

Newsmax:

https://www.newsmax.com/Health/aline.../14/id/866252/

My personal side notes about vicarious/secondary trauma:

One way to combat vicarious/secondary trauma is to become an advocate, and by doing so, to increase social support among people who share similar laments. Advocacy should not be about throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but instead, it should be about finding injustices being done at the hands of those in power. Abuse of power is widespread, a result of systemic problems and structural violence. Implicit biases apply here as well, which is why it is so hard to detect emotional abuse, the most common form of abuse that is not necessarily unlawful, illegal, or criminal. Emotional abuse is often justified, lest one find enough proof to demonstrate illegal or unlawful culpability. Further, emotional abuse if often minimized as a slight, as opposed to a harm that results in injuries and long-term sequelae. Emotional abuse can happen to anyone, regardless of whether or not childhood maltreatment occurred in a victim's past. The effects of emotional abuse can be detrimental to even the healthiest of persons without histories of childhood maltreatment.

Overall, it would appear that the above articles/institutions comprise the best of both advocacy and support for those experiencing vicarious/secondary trauma as well as those experiencing therapy abuse/exploitation. Hearing about someone else experiencing emotional abuse can also be traumatic. Helping professions are replete with exposure to vicarious/secondary trauma, especially when protective factors are not immediately available. Often missed, support groups are also replete with secondary trauma exposure.
Protective factors include social support, debriefing meetings, mandatory and effective therapy post incidents, ongoing accountability and supervision, paid time off from work for a work-related trauma, community support systems, and constant training/continuing education that increases psychological hardiness, trauma thresholds, and self-efficacy. Although protective factors help to reduce traumatic stress, some factors such as support groups may expose participants to secondary/vicarious trauma when hearing about others' traumas and/or being exposed to deviant behaviors.

As a survivor of polyvictimization, I'm hoping to heal and to grow, not just maintain and languish in my maintenance of disabilities. I'm hoping to flourish and thrive, not merely survive as a victim. Advocacy helps in these cases, especially in a world replete with trauma among many trauma survivors. So do protective factors, such as social groups.

***End copy/paste***

Here are some additional articles that I've found just now on secondary trauma and vicarious trauma. Although helping professionals and non-professional caregivers (e.g., family members caring for a disabled or mentally ill person), experience secondary/vicarious trauma, including their own emotion-regulation issues related to compassion fatigue and burnout, the professionals' and caregivers' work-related stress is never the fault of any particular patient, client, or loved one whom they are caring for. Each first responder, caregiver, therapist, or other helping professional is responsible for their own boundaries, their own problem-solution planning, their own respite, and their own emotions; they can ask for help and seek support (e.g., respite, emotional support, paid support to take a break, consultants to redesign their boundaries on the job). Here are the articles:

PsychCentral:

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/aging...arious-trauma/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/after...d-to-get-help/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recov...ual-bypassing/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/after...arious-trauma/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhaust...ic-stress-sts/
https://psychcentral.com/blog/second...ting-everyone/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/seconda...or-therapists/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/seconda...psychiatrists/
https://psychcentral.com/lib/the-lon...ife-of-trauma/
https://psychcentral.com/blog/do-soc...-disorder-too/

Good Therapy:

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psy...carious-trauma
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cop...-guide-0605137
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I've copied and pasted the information from two other threads to this section, which includes both sexual and emotional exploitation by therapists.

I hope this helps.

PS: I just found this thread, thanks to another PC member. Under the Psychotherapy Forum, you will find a similar post that I've recently made here (that is, unless it gets moved). I hope the information I've provided helps.
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Copied and pasted from my own personal thread, here's what I've spent time writing and researching. It would be great to get more helpful links, if you care to share. Here's what I wrote earlier today:

I've had my own dealings with two abusive therapists, one abusive pastoral counselor, and one abusive mentor in the psychology field. Thankfully, I've also had enough wonderful therapists, pastors, and mentors in my life to understand the differences between what is healthy and what is not. It took me some time to understand these concepts, however.

Throughout my life, I've also experienced vicarious/secondary traumas via hearing so many others' laments about their abusive therapists, teachers, professors, mentors, supervisors, significant others, toxic friends, and/or parents - many of the same traumas I can identify with in my past. Although the emphases on prevention through detection of childhood maltreatment points to the potential etiologies of why victims often get revictimized throughout their lifespans, there remains a lack of research on adulthood abuses, particularly those that involve professional hierarchies, including therapists.

When I read the following articles (listed below), I finally felt relief for my secondary traumas as well as my direct traumatic victimizations. Finally, some professionals banded together to address the traumatic issues that often remain secrets. Finally, there's some justice-seeking advocates who are helping victims of non-crimes (in this case, emotional abuse in psychotherapy) stand up for themselves when no one else will. Finally, someone addresses emotional abuse as a form of victimization, not just mere slights.

Here's the (first) article: First, Do No Harm: Abusive Psychotherapists | Psychopaths and Love

One story that is mentioned in the article concerns the ironic hardships that victims face when seeking treatment for therapy abuse. The institution that traumatized victims is the primary institution to also help them. However, many in the helping fields tend to victim-blame instead of help in cases like these. These helping professionals, like so many institutional "family members," tend to stick up for their own, so it's common for those within the psychological institution to disbelieve lamenting victims of therapy abuse, and therefore not treat them for their specific traumas. Therapy rooms, and therapists as well, are trauma triggers for victims who experienced therapy abuse. Sadly, victim-blaming through placing the responsibility on the victims' character only retraumatizes them further, as opposed to decreasing the effects of trauma through validation and belief in their therapy abuse victimizations. Clearly, there needs to be more training, research, and treatments available for victims of therapy abuse. But when? How?

Here are some additional links found both within the article referenced above as well as in additional articles I found on various Google searches:

Therapy Abuse (TELL) Website:

TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
https://www.therapyabuse.org/RS_sugreadings.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/t2-under...rapy-abuse.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/p2-emoti...in-therapy.htm
http://www.therapyabuse.org/p2-sexua...chotherapy.htm

Counselling Resource Website:

https://counsellingresource.com/feat...d-trauma-more/
https://counsellingresource.com/feat...nduced-trauma/
https://counsellingresource.com/feat...usive-therapy/

RAINN:

https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexua...-professionals

Dr. George Simon Website:

https://www.drgeorgesimon.com/seriou...derstand-them/

PsychCentral:

https://psychcentral.com/blog/your-p...ts-in-therapy/
https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-the...exploiting-me/
https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-the...her-therapist/

Psychiatric Times:

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/art...oundary-issues

Psychopaths and Love Website:

http://psychopathsandlove.com/first-...erapy/#respond

Surviving Therapist Abuse Website:

http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.com/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...tes-and-links/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.com/my-story/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...iming-my-life/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...use-checklist/
http://www.survivingtherapistabuse.c...nt-no-more.pdf

Professional Articles:

https://psychotherapy.psychiatryonli....1997.51.3.357
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...30698800109583
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12465637
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...onal_standards
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/689...1c4128a06d.pdf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1991.tb00862.x
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1992-20656-001

Los Angeles Times:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...103-story.html

Newsmax:

https://www.newsmax.com/Health/aline.../14/id/866252/

My personal side notes about vicarious/secondary trauma:

One way to combat vicarious/secondary trauma is to become an advocate, and by doing so, to increase social support among people who share similar laments. Advocacy should not be about throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but instead, it should be about finding injustices being done at the hands of those in power. Abuse of power is widespread, a result of systemic problems and structural violence. Implicit biases apply here as well, which is why it is so hard to detect emotional abuse, the most common form of abuse that is not necessarily unlawful, illegal, or criminal. Emotional abuse is often justified, lest one find enough proof to demonstrate illegal or unlawful culpability. Further, emotional abuse if often minimized as a slight, as opposed to a harm that results in injuries and long-term sequelae. Emotional abuse can happen to anyone, regardless of whether or not childhood maltreatment occurred in a victim's past. The effects of emotional abuse can be detrimental to even the healthiest of persons without histories of childhood maltreatment.

Overall, it would appear that the above articles/institutions comprise the best of both advocacy and support for those experiencing vicarious/secondary trauma as well as those experiencing therapy abuse/exploitation. Hearing about someone else experiencing emotional abuse can also be traumatic. Helping professions are replete with exposure to vicarious/secondary trauma, especially when protective factors are not immediately available. Often missed, support groups are also replete with secondary trauma exposure.
Protective factors include social support, debriefing meetings, mandatory and effective therapy post incidents, ongoing accountability and supervision, paid time off from work for a work-related trauma, community support systems, and constant training/continuing education that increases psychological hardiness, trauma thresholds, and self-efficacy. Although protective factors help to reduce traumatic stress, some factors such as support groups may expose participants to secondary/vicarious trauma when hearing about others' traumas and/or being exposed to deviant behaviors.

As a survivor of polyvictimization, I'm hoping to heal and to grow, not just maintain and languish in my maintenance of disabilities. I'm hoping to flourish and thrive, not merely survive as a victim. Advocacy helps in these cases, especially in a world replete with trauma among many trauma survivors. So do protective factors, such as social groups.

***End copy/paste***

Here are some additional articles that I've found just now on secondary trauma and vicarious trauma. Although helping professionals and non-professional caregivers (e.g., family members caring for a disabled or mentally ill person), experience secondary/vicarious trauma, including their own emotion-regulation issues related to compassion fatigue and burnout, the professionals' and caregivers' work-related stress is never the fault of any particular patient, client, or loved one whom they are caring for. Each first responder, caregiver, therapist, or other helping professional is responsible for their own boundaries, their own problem-solution planning, their own respite, and their own emotions; they can ask for help and seek support (e.g., respite, emotional support, paid support to take a break, consultants to redesign their boundaries on the job). Here are the articles:

PsychCentral:

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/aging...arious-trauma/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/after...d-to-get-help/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recov...ual-bypassing/
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/after...arious-trauma/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhaust...ic-stress-sts/
https://psychcentral.com/blog/second...ting-everyone/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/seconda...or-therapists/
https://pro.psychcentral.com/seconda...psychiatrists/
https://psychcentral.com/lib/the-lon...ife-of-trauma/
https://psychcentral.com/blog/do-soc...-disorder-too/

Good Therapy:

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psy...carious-trauma
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cop...-guide-0605137

Thank you for the link! I will definitely check them out! I been reading horror stories of therapist admitting they witness abuse and no one stood up for the victim or they shuns down if they did speak up.
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I've copied and pasted the information from two other threads to this section, which includes both sexual and emotional exploitation by therapists.

I hope this helps.

PS: I just found this thread, thanks to another PC member. Under the Psychotherapy Forum, you will find a similar post that I've recently made here (that is, unless it gets moved). I hope the information I've provided helps.
Yes! It helps. I will keep in eye out for your thread.
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I think the thread I posted will be deleted since it is now a duplicate of what I posted below under this thread.
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Yes! It helps. I will keep in eye out for your thread.
I am glad the list helps. it helped me too. I have yet to heal from therapy abuse. The websites give me hope.
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I get so mad at myself looking back. Why did I fall for any of it? Sure he was nice enough to respond after 2 yrs but only once, briefly. Now he's working again and I just keep thinking how I wish I had a more professional version of him. Maybe I wouldn't be so distrustful of therapy. Maybe I'd be better of. I never listened to warning but I wish I had
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