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Old Oct 11, 2015, 04:29 AM
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Thought it may be useful to post this quote from Simon & Shuman (more about them below). It really sums it up. As much as we may not like to hear or believe it...

"No patient is strong enough, no pause is long enough, and no love is true enough to justify compromising this [patient/therapist] relationship."

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From the 'Clinical Manual of Psychiatry and Law', by noted forensic psychiatrist Dr. Robert Simon and legal scholar Daniel Shuman, both recipients of the Guttmacher Award
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Old Oct 11, 2015, 11:18 AM
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Now THAT should be a sticky! Thanks for this!
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Old Oct 11, 2015, 12:12 PM
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'No patient is strong enough'?

It's precisely because I am not strong that I must date T
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Old Oct 11, 2015, 12:39 PM
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I'm not impressed. What does this quote even mean? On what grounds do they assert this? Who speaks for the client and what he/she goes through, while a psychiatrist and a lawyer are reminding therapists simply to keep their own asses covered?
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Old Oct 11, 2015, 02:11 PM
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I think that is very cynical and just not always true. Usually true? Sure, but there are no absolutes, life is not that simple.
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Old Oct 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
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I don't want to argue the opposite of this quote, but I would say there are no absolutes in life. "No patient strong enough." Well... Except all the ones who did sleep with their Ts and went on to become famous therapists themselves. "No love true enough" well... Except those cases where a T married an ex client and their relationship worked.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 02:51 AM
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Hi all,

Didn't mean to upset anyone - I had/have feelings for my Psych - I searched online to find similar stories; which I found. Most had said the T and themselves did cross the boundary with disasterous results. And most literature and thinking is that is completely inappropriate. It is a violation of doctor/patient trust. I don't mean to be cynical - more protective.

As much as you may have feelings for T, which can be worth expressing within the therapy room, in the most part, better to be aware that such an encounter is a boundary violation by your T.

It's not you that causes it. You are not to blame if boundaries are crossed. I thought that quote summed it up quite well. We enter T in a position of vunerability. And never forget you are paying $$.

I'm sure there are execeptions to the rule - I'd be interested to hear any that occured between a patient and psychiatrist from year 2000 onwards - does anyone know any that worked?

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