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Wise Elder
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I've been told I had a curse on my career. I believe it and now it's been removed. I believe it based on the uncanny series of misfortunes I've had in my career, one after another after another, that made me think it was a force in the universe working against me, throughout my entire life.
A moderator on a spiritual forum I am on is seriously pissing me off. She keeps following me on each of my threads, telling me that I am personally responsible for all abuse I've suffered at work and in life, and that I am personally responsible for every bad thing that's happened to me. She now is arguing with me, respectfully, on a thread I created on that forum about curses. She is talking about past lives and karma and isn't even sticking to the subject and question I asked: do curses exist? Well, I do believe curses exist, but I vehemently do NOT agree that WE are personally responsible for ALL the horrible things that happen to us, nor do I agree that it's always karma at play. How can an innocent baby who gets cancer be responsible? How can an innocent child be responsible for abuse from a parent or loved one? And how can someone who was killed in a car accident by a drunk driver be responsible? I asked her these questions. And, IF karma IS to blame, then how can one truly overcome negative karma from many past lifetimes? Sure, we can be a good person in this lifetime - sure, we can wrack up positive karma points by doing lots of acts of kindness and by giving ourselves to this world and to others. But I don't believe that an innocent baby gets cancer because of negative past karma or because of a past lifetime. Nope. I think it's a misfortune in life that occurs. That being said, perhaps I contradict myself because I believe in curses, because there was one on me that had to be removed. Now ppl here will likely disagree with me about the curse, and that's Ok. People can disagree and not believe in curses. But I do believe. It's not the first time I've been told there was a curse on my life. And I am glad it's been removed now. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I’m not going to pass comment on the curse, but I wholeheartedly agree nobody is responsible for the bad things that happen to them. You don’t control other people’s behaviour and can’t compel another person to treat you well or badly. How they treat you is their choice in that moment, and how someone treats you over a longer time reflects their character.
Babies getting cancer is indeed awful and they’re not to blame, neither are their parents. That’s taking victim blame to a whole new level, and it’s scary that anyone could actually think along those lines. |
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What's worrisome to me is this woman is a moderator on that forum. And I think she's totally NUTS!!!!! Of course, ppl may think I am NUTS for believing in curses, lol. Nonetheless, she was chasing me around the forum, forcing her thoughts on me, which I also disagree with. Yes, it's victim blaming. Not OK. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I'm not sure what I think about curses.
What I understand about karma is that karma is a balance system. If you put out negativity, that is what you get. If you put out good, then you get good. But the flaw in this is that good people also go through terrible things. And bad people have great positive events occur in their life. Overall, I think you are allowed to believe whatever you want. And you don't have to accept someone else's perspective if it doesn't feel right to you. I think bad karma depends on intention. Another thought I've had is that sometimes we experience certain suffering and challenges as a way to make our soul evolve or grow in a certain way. Because I, personally, the things I have been through have helped me develop compassion and empathy. So perhaps it's not so much punishment as it is soul evolution. Just another theory to think about. I have a hard to believing everything terrible that happens to us is just bad karma. |
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__________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I'm of a different belief. We get a life plan before we come down and choose to experience certain difficulties. That is how I explain cancer in babies for example.
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Very interesting - which would mean everything we experience is predetermined for us and is already laid out.
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I'm so sorry you're experiencing this. I've found some spiritually minded people to be the most judgemental I've encountered due to their belief systems, which are often about blaming others. There seems to be a real lack of love and compassion which I think is the foundation of what spiritual living is really about.
I respect what you're saying about a curse, but I wonder if rather than the universe being against you, it's telling you this wasn't the right career path for you? I believe we live and learn and if something isn't right for what we need we become aware of it through our gut feelings or external events. The moderator sounds like she has issues which are far more to do with her than they are about you and your life. You don't have to agree with her or even argue with her if you don't want to, you can just ignore her or even block her if the forum has this function. When someone is that set in their views it's often the kindest thing to do for yourself. In my view, no one is in control of everything in their lives. Things happen that we can't control. Like you say, babies get seriously sick, which is not within their control. Maybe on some level they do this as part of their soul's evolution and/or to aid in others but this doesn't mean they are to 'blame'. It's good to take responsibility for what we can in our lives, such as making healthy choices and for our thoughts and behaviours, but blame is not helpful. Everyone is where they are for a reason and when we grow in awareness/consciousness we can do better. It does not mean everyone is responsible for literally everything that happens. No one has that much control! If you're interested in a more heart based spirituality, look up Matt Kahn. His teachings are based on acceptance and compassion. |
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I agree with you about people trying to find and assign blame. I think that moderator has issues too. I mean, to follow me around the forum, trying to convince me that everything bad in my life is because of myself and that I am to blame for all of it? To me, that's kind of sick and disturbing behavior. And I also agree that no one has that much control over their lives. I do sincerely believe my career had a curse. You wouldn't believe the inordinate amount of bad things that have happened in my career. It's unheard of and is most unusual, so it's very easy to believe there was a curse. But again, I know that many people don't believe in such things, and I respect when someone has a differing viewpoint. Nonetheless, IF there was a curse, at least it's gone now. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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I used to be someone who struggled a lot with the whole issue of how much control we have over our lives. I really beat myself up over it. My life has been pretty tough and I've had people tell me I created my reality and as I result I blamed myself. Having greater compassion for myself has helped so much because through that I can see that I've only done the best I can with the knowledge and understanding I have. |
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To add to that, sure we can make many different kinds of mistakes, but we still make the best decisions we can at any given time in our lives given our understanding and knowledge. And then we learn! And we grow from those mistakes and from when we've made poor decisions in our lives. I actually think there are really no mistakes, only lessons. And if we can choose to view something that went sour as a lesson, then we have grown. Having compassion for one's own personal journey is SO important. Especially when others wish to bring you down or assign blame. Sure, we are all responsible for our choices and decisions, but we also have to be compassionate with ourselves through the learning and growing process. Life sure is a mystery! And we definitely cannot possibly claim to know what we do not see. My life has been very rough too. It's been a real struggle. But to this day, I still smile and look for the best in life and strive for the best in life. I won't let those negative experiences ruin me - they can only strengthen me so that I can be a better person and a far stronger person in this nutty upside down world. __________________ "Twenty-five years and my life is still trying to get up that great big hill of hope for a destination" ~4 Non Blondes |
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