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A good article I came across today...
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Hello Fred,
Elsewhere you had noted: I am reading Anatomy of the Psyche by Edward F Edinger. It is an analysis of the Rosary of the Philosophers, an alchemy text, as a symbolic representation of psychological transformation and becoming who you should be. Edinger tends to be fairly heavy reading. Are you using Jungian insights as a means of interpreting and working through your own experience? If you click on my name you'll be transferred to my profile. I have a photo album there of books I've found helpful, a number of which are by Jungian authors. The one author I would recommend most highly for those who have experienced psychotic states of consciousness would be John Weir Perry -- have you read any of his work? If you've not yet read it, this post also has some information related to medication, including information on some treatment programs with very good outcomes that use minimal or no medication. Naturally, if people find medication to be helpful for them and they feel comfortable pursuing that path, they should continue to do so. However, those who would prefer to avoid medication or find the side-effects to be too debiliating are often eager for alternate methods of treatment. ~ Namaste .
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Re: The Rosarium Philosophorum
I haven't read Edinger's book but I have read The Mystery of the Coniuncto: Alchemical Image of Individuation. It might be interesting to compare notes. Meantime, those who might think schizophrenia has nothing to do with The Rosary of the Philosophers probably haven't read this page nor had that experience... Quote:
Music of the Hour: Delerium ~ Flowers Become Screens .
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From Edinger's Mystery of the Coniuncto...
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I have been working with a Jungian analyst and we use whatever my fertile imagination cooks up (or takes a shine to) as part of the process.
It's been my own experience that most everything that comes up, comes up for a reason. Meantime, I'm the one who dragged your post about Edinger in here so I'm not certain -- has psychosis been part of your personal experience? John Weir Perry was an Jungian analyst who worked with schizophrenics (usually, first episode) who were in active states of psychosis. Perry's experimental project in Diabasis had an 85% recovery rate, without medication. At least some of the individuals who participate or read here find Jungian applications to be useful but either can't find an analyst to work with or can't afford one. If you have any insights to share from your own experience, (nothing you don't feel comfortable sharing, of course), others, myself included, might benefit from it. I am hoping to pursue analytic training myself one day. It's my understanding it's a long road; first a degree in psychology (a Master's seems to be the preferred route these days) as followed by an additional four years of training in depth psychology. I wish you luck with it. Medical treatment can be part of the answer for some people, yes. It is not, however, the whole answer. I may seem to be referring to psychological disorders. I couldn't speak to all disorders but it certainly seems to be helpful for some people who have experienced psychosis. I tend to recommend it to those whose (psychotic) content contains archetypal elements. Much thanks for the book recommendation. I've only read a bit of Hillman thus far and liked what he had to offer. I'll add Suicide and the Soul to my ever-growing wish list. For any other readers who are new here and don't know how I've harped on about Jungian applications, I think this link will lead to a discussion that covers that in more detail: An Introduction to a Jungian Approach to Psychosis. Additional information can be found via my blog of the same name, visible in my signature. ~ Namaste .
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Fred: I have never experienced a state of psychosis. The work with my analyst is my first foray into psychotherapy so I do not have anything to compare it to. I went into analysis thinking I was self aware and knew things and now I realize I do not know anything at all.
Psychosis -- what I prefer to refer to as a "fragmentation crisis" or "altered state of consciousness" -- was my introduction to the collective unconscious. Of course, Jung himself was rumored to have had a breakdown of schizophrenic proportions and much of what he learned is thanks to the schizophrenics he worked with in his career, as filtered through his own mind, life and education. It would probably be difficult to arrange for a classroom setting but as a life-experience, it was a powerful introduction and one that I'm still learning from. See also: The Mandala Experience: Schizophrenia & Self-Disintegration ~ Namaste .
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