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The following should be encouraging for anyone who is currently dealing with schizophrenia or provides care to someone who is. Quote:
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~ Kindness is cheap. It's unkindness that always demands the highest price. Last edited by spiritual_emergency; Jan 23, 2011 at 06:46 PM. |
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Psychiatrists Quote:
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~ Kindness is cheap. It's unkindness that always demands the highest price. Last edited by spiritual_emergency; Jan 23, 2011 at 07:09 PM. |
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Psychiatrists... Quote:
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Psychologists...
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Psychologists...
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Psychologists...
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~ Kindness is cheap. It's unkindness that always demands the highest price. Last edited by spiritual_emergency; Jan 23, 2011 at 07:11 PM. |
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Psychologists...
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~ Kindness is cheap. It's unkindness that always demands the highest price. Last edited by spiritual_emergency; Jan 23, 2011 at 07:11 PM. |
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Other Professional Voices
In addition to the psychologists and psychiatrists who have been open and active in helping in the development of the recovery approach to treating their conditions, 3 other doctoral level professionals, who are not specifically certified as psychiatrists or psychologists, but who themselves have schizophrenia, have been active in the mental illness / schizophrenia arena, advocating for recovering persons by publishing and making presentations about their conditions. Quote:
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Other Professional Voices...
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Other Professional Voices...
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~ Kindness is cheap. It's unkindness that always demands the highest price. Last edited by spiritual_emergency; Jan 23, 2011 at 07:13 PM. |
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Differing Perspectives on Cause and Recovery... Quote:
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s_e at work.
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Now if thou would'st When all have given him o'er From death to life Thou might'st him yet recover -- Michael Drayton 1562 - 1631 |
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![]() I'd also like to emphasize that recovery should not equate with becoming some kind of doctor. The truth is that people who go through these kinds of experiences come from all walks of life: plumbers, accountants, teachers, gas jockeys, cashiers, librarians, scientists, fishermen, soldiers, hair stylists, lawyers, etc. Those who are working in the medical profession and have achieved some degree of establishment within their career can afford to "come out". Many others could not without risking their livelihoods. The secondary benefit of sharing the stories of professional psychiatrists and psychologists who have recovered is because they are trained to recognize the symptoms and behaviors we label as "schizophrenic" in this culture whereas if we were to quote people from other career fields, it would be far too easy for larger culture to discount their claims as "episodes of delusion". pachyderm: I think the most destructive effects of this occur if they get inside you. I agree pachyderm. I encounter many people who have internalized a message of hopelessness and worthlessness. That's not to say that people can't move past that, but it's another challenge. It takes work. Knowing that other people have recovered can begin to dent that belief construct. It allows you to entertain the thought, "What if my own doctors were wrong when they said I could never get better?" ~ Namaste
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Pat Deegan is a favorite of mine, as are Fred Freese and Elyn Saks. They give me hope.
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Thanks for posting this it will help a lot of people. Its good that so many people with sz are becoming highly educated and trained to help others with it. Have these various people written any material such as case studies or books on successful relationships, marriages and raising kids with a schizophrenic husband? I`ve been trying to find some positive books and articles written by women who have boyfriends and/or husbands with sz. Im also hoping to share some stories about good boyfriends and husbands with my own bf so he can see some positive examples of guys with his condition that are doing well in their relationship. Im hoping he will learn something so he can go back to being how he was. He`s been so different for many months now and I just wish he was back to his usually self. Its hard to be in a relationship were I feel like I`m the last priority for him. Before he started acting all busy he use to put me first in everything. Anyway if anyone could point me to some material addressing relationships with schizophrenic men, I greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Grand Poohbah, ironically your message caught my attention at a very interesting time in my life. On that note and in a good mood, I want to profess that I am one of those individuals that your message is about. Happily, I am in a good place in my life and able to manage family, schooling, and a positive rekindled relationship. There is one question on my mind that has always interested me however; I am particularly high functioning in comparison to many others diagnosed with schizophrenia. My diagnosis essentially is schizophrenia, paranoid subtype “primordial,” which in fancy terms means that I was diagnosed with schizotypical personality disorder prior to schizophrenia. Being so high functioning, though not without challenges, I am able to cope without medication therapy, is this out of the ordinary or do you know of other cases where individuals have managed to cope without the use of medication?
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Now if thou would'st When all have given him o'er From death to life Thou might'st him yet recover -- Michael Drayton 1562 - 1631 |
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A schizophrenic stops being schizophrenic when he meets another schizophrenic, this is truth and very real to recovery.
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The Saint: A schizophrenic stops being schizophrenic when he meets another schizophrenic, this is truth and very real to recovery. That reminds me of this... Hello Le Chat Noir, I think you may have been referring to me when you used the term, "Grand Poobah". That name is given by the site according to post count. My user name is spiritual_emergency. Many prefer to shorten it to SE or s_e and that's fine with me. As for your question... Yes, there are many people who function well without medication as well as many people who function well with medication. Medication status is only an issue for those who are not functioning well, either because of the medication or the lack thereof. I've had a special interest in those who function well without medication because that has been my own experience. Some of the best evidence for this can be found in the World Health Studies as well as through clinicians such as John Weir Perry, Loren Mosher, and Jaakko Seikkula. All of these men were responsible for treatment programs that used minimal or no medication as a form of treatment. All of them produced recovery rates in the range of 85%. You may find some additional items of interest on my Spiritual Recovery blog and my Voices of Recovery blog. ~ Namaste
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