[Sometimes psychotic]

YANSS 038 ? How the Halo Effect Turns Uncertainty into False Certainty « You Are Not So Smart

Was listening to this podcast about the halo effect...one of the things was when kids were labelled as emotionally disturbed or a learning disability they were more likely to be rated poorly by teachers....now this experiment was done with a child who was simply average on video shown both learning and playing....teachers basically thought the child was worse than they actually were so they were grading harder due to the label. Makes me rethink about disclosing in general. I honestly think most people forget that I'm sick on occasion and perhaps that's a good thing. But why is it always negative to have mental illness in the first place? I always thought it was because we didn't have positive examples but we have nash and Saks and nobody pays attention to that or they merge it with terrible things. Why does this logic bias persist? How can we reverse or eliminate the halo effect at least for negative things.

Do you feel that disclosing your illness has resulted in harsher treatment?

[Sometimes psychotic]

I vote no because being able to talk about it helps me immensely and most people don't even notice when I am sick....the relapsing and remitting nature of my psychosis is probably beneficial in that regard. Plus the fact that no one can see your thoughts is beneficial because nobody knows when I'm sick unless I tell them.

[Angelique67]

I'm conflicted on whether to tell or not. In the past I had mixed results but mostly poor ones (telling employers).

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Angelique67

I'm conflicted on whether to tell or not. In the past I had mixed results but mostly poor ones (telling employers).

I'm wondering if it's about timing, you forge a bond then you can tell....basically I haven't gotten a lot of rejection after telling people I know or even have talked to but in the study the child was labeled before anyone even knew him.

[Angelique67]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I'm wondering if it's about timing, you forge a bond then you can tell....basically I haven't gotten a lot of rejection after telling people I know or even have talked to but in the study the child was labeled before anyone even knew him.

Well, I told after forming bonds, but if anything it soured things to tell. It made my employers uncomfortable and self conscious about doing anything to "disturb" me or whatever. It made one of them even harder on me I think, possibly to try to get me to quit, although I'm not sure. Anyway I think now for me, it would be better not to tell people. They truly don't understand. :/ But it may be different now among young people. The people I told were older than I was and may have had a lot of unfavorable preconceptions.

[newtus]

i was labeled emotionally/mentally disturbed as a child in high school and was put in a special program for those emotionally/mentally disturbed. i used to be more open about it than i am now. it usually turns out bad when i tell someone. people dont think im going to hurt them so much as they just think im sone sort of mentally challenged. at my clinic im treated as if im mentally challenged. you know? as if im not mentally capable of anything and as if im emotionally destroyed. ive been treated that way everytime i told a hospital or doctor/therapist/whatever about having Schiz.

i dont really want to tell anyone anymore in real life because its very apparent enough that im disturbed and not mentally right. so to confirm it to people...idk about that

[junkDNA]

the people who know in my life are supportive and kind. i do not tell random ppl or acquaintances. or coworkers. some of my managers know i have mental issues but they don't know what kind. but i dont feel discriminated against bc of it there.

i think the media depicts mental illness in a really negative light MOST of the time. i think if the media could stop it's fascination with portraying mental illness as scary or as entertainment the public would be able to focus more on the seriousness of it and be more compassionate. the media in general is overrun with shock stories and negative reports. it really bothers me

I find schizophrenia sublime and ever interesting. However, sharing that I have it has always been a let down, especially when dating. I hold off as long as possible before sharing little part of me. People just don't know how to handle it. I can't say I blame them. I didn't know how to handle it either.

He'll no I'm not telling ppl unless I know them very, very well.

[newtus]

i told someone i have schizophrenia so theyd stop pursuing me and they said they didnt care that i did. obviously it backfired on me because i didnt want them. but that prob was the only time someone wanting me said they didnt care i had it

[neil w]

haha i tried the same thing newtus and it didnt work. i eventually did cool the flames however and now were good friends.