Um i am not sure what to call this but a while ago i my psychologist said i had to go to the hospital because i was going to hurt myself. Anyway that time i was there i made the mistake of telling the doctors about the voices and how i dont think the world is real and a bunch of other stuff even though one of the people in my head warned me not to i was stupid anyway as the doctors said they wanted to help. Anyway the doctor said i had to stay there because they were worried and that there might be some "psychosis" involved and after that i shut up and lied and didnt tell them if anything was happening and they said they were going to get a court order to force me to have meds which i narrowly missed due to a change of law in my area. Since that time i had not brought up those thoughts with anyone until a week or 2 ago with my psychologist (it had been a few years) and last session he made me take a test thing because he doesnt want to be missing anything with me and now i am worried. I dont want to end up in the hospital again because the doctors there are evil and they want to hurt me anyway i guess what i am asking is, is it likely that they may think i am psychotic because i get how someone might think that but i am not they just dont know the whole story.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Usually voices mean psychosis....

But i dont have the voices that often mostly whispering and i am pretty sure they are the spirits but i really dont think i am psychotic.....

[Loial]

Hearing voices even if they are whispers would suggest some sort of psychosis as SometimesP said... often times a person who is psychotic will have a lack of insight that means they will think they are not ill. The fact you think your voices are spirits is a sign of a delusion too.

The only way to get the right help & know for sure is to open and honest with a psychiatrist. They won't try & hospitalize if you have mild psychosis but they will probably want to start you on some medication that will ease any symptoms or stop them from getting worse.

i am seeing a psychiatrist as well but i dont talk to him much i dont know if i can trust him

[Loial]

I know what you mean about not knowing whether to trust a psychiatrist or not but the only thing you can do is take a leap of faith.

They are professionals & should always have your wellbeing as there number one priority. I know some psychiatrists are better than others but few will be truly incompetent, or untrustworthy if you want to look at it that way.

I think the most important thing is that you are open about your problems & get evaluated. It could be any number of mental or non-mental health problems they are causing you to hear voices some more serious than others.

I was tested for non psych related issues a while ago and they haven't really changed much since then so I think everyone thinks it is psych related but I don't know I don't really trust doctors in general plus I go to say something and then I freeze also the people in my head don't want me to talk to my psychiatrist because they think he wants to hurt us well they think he will if I tell him certain things which is why I have not mentioned most of this stuff since that hospital visit even the other times I was there after that I just told them I wasn't hearing stuff when they asked and I got to leave a lot faster.

[CopperStar]

The nature of voices makes a difference. Professionals worth their salt will ask you a lot of questions about the voices before drawing any conclusions.

For example, whether or not you experience the voices as being inside of your mind, or as voices outside of your head, is a pretty significant factor.

If they are inside of your mind, then there could be a difference between psychosis or "very loud thoughts" - the latter of which is often more a case of disassociation/compartmentalization issues. Where your mind is basically compartmentalized and you're talking with different parts of your own self.

Then one should consider whether or not the voices are causing you problems. Do they lead you to doing harmful things? Do they distress you? Do they distract you from tasks? Do you feel guided and comforted, or do you feel harassed and haunted?

Then there is how you perceive the voices. If you sort of view them as parts of yourself, or just as a mysterious quirk of your own mind, that is one thing. However if you feel a strong conviction that it's aliens, spirits, government towers, etc that are after you, that is another thing. Because you can't really know for sure what they are, but if you have a strong belief of what they are, despite no evidence, that could be a sign of delusion. How well you are able to reason with yourself and admit when you can't know something, you just have guesses, is a sign of lucidity.

Again, lots of important questions. Because if you are getting compartmentalization/disassociation issues manifested as "loud thoughts" in your mind, medication won't help that. But if you are getting harassed by definite voices, then medication might be able to help that, depending on efficacy.

I get both ones inside my head and ones outside my head and then sometimes thoughts from inside my head come out of my head and I can hear them outside my head and most of my thoughts I don't feel are mine like I don't think they come from me some of them are the OCD I think but I also think of the OCD as separate to me more like it is an entity and then also from the other people in my head. When I hear the whispering it scares me quite a bit they used to tell me to hurt things but now as soon as i hear them I start trying to do things which make other noises so I can't hear them as much cause I get too scared to move otherwise.

[CopperStar]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I get both ones inside my head and ones outside my head and then sometimes thoughts from inside my head come out of my head and I can hear them outside my head and most of my thoughts I don't feel are mine like I don't think they come from me some of them are the OCD I think but I also think of the OCD as separate to me more like it is an entity and then also from the other people in my head. When I hear the whispering it scares me quite a bit they used to tell me to hurt things but now as soon as i hear them I start trying to do things which make other noises so I can't hear them as much cause I get too scared to move otherwise.

Well, it is entirely possible to have trauma symptoms, OCD and mental illness, all at the same time. This type of comorbidity is actually pretty common, because mental illness can run in a bloodline, which means that you get the genes for mental illness and also get traumatized by your mentally unwell parent(s).

IME medication is very helpful because it can clear up the stuff from mental illness, and then I know that whatever is left over is psychological in nature and needs to be processed.

I don't understand I have not been traumatized.

[CopperStar]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I don't understand I have not been traumatized.

If you have no history of trauma, and you are sure of this, and if the voices are outside of your head, as well, and you feel a strong conviction that they are spirits even with no evidence, then that sounds like straight-up psychosis. Which, medication can help with. But if you hate going to the hospital (understandable) you can go the route of private appointments with a pdoc.

I am already seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist privately. I dont want to take meds because i think they will hurt me. I am worried that my psychologist/psychiatrist will think i am psychotic when i am not because i dont want them to force me to take meds.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I am already seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist privately. I dont want to take meds because i think they will hurt me. I am worried that my psychologist/psychiatrist will think i am psychotic when i am not because i dont want them to force me to take meds.

You might want to check out the hearing voices network and elanor longdens Ted talk.

Hearing Voices Network Australia | A community of voice hearers, professionals and families. Allies working towards recovery, acceptance and inclusion

https://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_lo...ad?language=en

Thank you that sounds like a much nicer approach.

[CopperStar]

Originally Posted by eden1515

I am already seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist privately. I dont want to take meds because i think they will hurt me. I am worried that my psychologist/psychiatrist will think i am psychotic when i am not because i dont want them to force me to take meds.

Do the voices cause you any problems? They do sound like hallucinations, and there is a strong chance you are psychotic in that regard. But a lot of people have hallucinations that don't interfere with their ability to function. It's all about quality of life. I can understand why you wouldn't want to tell them.

They sometimes scare me but they aren't the biggest thing I am dealing with at the moment and most of the time I can ignore them so they don't cause me that much trouble I guess.