[Atypical_Disaster]

It seems like the more I communicate in a day or whatever or try to at least either through speaking or writing or whatever that over time it's like I can't keep it all up and my thoughts just splinter and otherwise fall appaart. Like I don't know how many typos I've made on pc today but it's probably not a small numeber but it's like I it doesn't even cross my mind to check it and I don't know it's like the words LOOK fine to me or SOUND fine to me but then people are telling me that I sound odd, that I don't makea sense, that I'm rambly etc...

Does this kind of thing happen to any one else........

I can't be literally the only person on this sight with thought disorganization being a big part of their problems can I?

I wish someone could see me eye to eye. It is all.

Therapy today sucked muchly, I barely spoke and apparently when I did I wasn't "making sense" most of the time.. Like I can get a thought in here or there or anywhere but it all gets lost and I get stuck. I think if I allow inertia into a total lack of motion maybe I could sort my thoughts....... But lack of motion scares the hell out of me because of that hole collapsing into a point issue but I already think I talk about that too much.......

[Angelique67]

I have trouble with any kind of complex thinking these days. It's like my mind has simply forgotten how to do it.

When I try goal oriented thinking, it's over before I start. I just get swallowed up by avolition.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Yeah I think it's the complexity thing, because simple statements and questions I have an easier time responding to but even then I can start rambling on because my mind doesn't just answer the question or whatever it also makes a bunch of associations with the answer to the question that want to be heard above water too.

Like, it's not just can you get me a glass of water, it's the glass itself, the water that goes in it, then I think of the ocean, floods, hurricanes, drinking water, how I choked on my coffee this morning, and I smoke cigarettes when I drink my coffee, and smoking is bad for you and you'll get lung cancer and die and what happens to your soul when you die do you have a soul do people have souls or are we just all alone and that's it? Then I can sense myself collapsing into that insignificant point on that line that goes nowhere and then I count to ten and wonder why.

And I've got to sort through all these thoughts and stuff when I answer things and I just can't so I go away for awhile until I am doing better or at least think I am... and sometimes I can be more sensical... But like the older I get the less those times seem to be and I don't know what to be or not be... Apparently I've got a rotten personality like a bad apple core. Then well fruits are good for you until they go bad.

It's not that my thoughts race, it's that there's too mahy of them and sorting through them all is a lot of work and I'm exhausted and I'm always exhausted car exhaust well I guess that was going away. I didn't know what to say before but I said a lot of anything or of that nothing. I don't know what I'm trying to say.

I lost the point that I am becoming.

[Angelique67]

I think I've experienced what you're talking about on drugs when I was younger, and when also I've been in extreme panic like the one time I took Zoloft.

But I understand what you're saying. And you don't have a rotten personality!

[Atypical_Disaster]

For what it's worth Zoloft totally ****ed me... I don't remember what it did, it didn't make me panic this was years ago but it made me even MORE emotionally flat than usual and I physically couldn't feel anything either and...

Possible trigger:

well when you're schizophrenic and you've got sharp objects **** happens... yeppers...

[newtus]

I have thought disorganization from time to time by it comes through my speech and not typing because I can reread my posts and fix them.

its less so on my meds but my dad still notices it all the time he says. so idk. Its hard for me to notice.

I feel like a piece of isht

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by newtus

I have thought disorganization from time to time by it comes through my speech and not typing because I can reread my posts and fix them.

its less so on my meds but my dad still notices it all the time he says. so idk. Its hard for me to notice.

I feel like a piece of isht

Yeah, for me it comes through any form of communicating, typing, talking, writing offline... I seem to be doing a bit better today a friend of mine who is aware of my diagnosis and has supported me a lot said I do sound better this morning than I did yesterday. When my thought disorganization isn't as bad I can do what you do, like rewrite my posts so that they "make sense" but when it gets to a certain point I lose insight entirely. But also like you, when I'm talking to people offline it's pretty constant, people that are close to me notice it all the time and point it out to me because like you said I really don't notice it when I'm just plain talking to someone off the internet. When I'm typing I can look at a post and fix things if I have some level of insight(I do this morning a bit though I know I'm still probably a bit rambly, people ALWAYS say that I just go on and on and circle around the same things and that the longer I talk the more I don't "make sense"... Ugh...)

I think like any other symptom of schizophrenia thought disorganization comes and goes... Like, I'm not constantly overwhelmed by voices though I do always have some background chatter I don't constantly have like command voices telling me to do evil **** for example.

I think my new AP is starting to kick in, I'm a lot less agitated and irritable today and I think I'm making more sense. I am kind of rambling on still today my friend told me but she said I'm far more coherent and that my meds seem to be helping me. I don't usually notice how much the meds actually help you know...

Also, you're not a piece of ****. You're sick, it isn't your fault. I like talking to you and I consider you a good friend, you've always been supportive to me and others here and you've got a lot of good stuff about you. I like your personality and how creative you are. Just saying.

[newtus]

thanks atypical! yea like people say i talk in circles. like say the same thing over and over and dont get to the point. i get people saying "what?" a lot to me.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by newtus

thanks atypical! yea like people say i talk in circles. like say the same thing over and over and dont get to the point. i get people saying "what?" a lot to me.

You're welcome.

People tell me similar things, that I talk in circles around the same stuff and there seems to be no point to what I'm saying and yeah people are always like, "what?", "I don't understand.", "Um...", etc when I talk offline... Ugh.

[misslabarinth]

I have the same problem, though it is mostly offline; for instance.
I was making my way back to class (school) and I was asked where I was headed.
Every time I spoke my mind would kinda 'shut itself off', making me stutter, choke on words, stop speaking all together, etc.
By the end of it, all I could say was; math.
Then he proceeded to ask me something I don't remember (.___.) In which I sat there staring at him, till I finally pushed the word 'No' out.
I am quite sure that guy thought there was something wrong with me....

[Calypso2632]

I start out with a point and then lose track as I talk. Then talk in circles.. I normally end up saying uh huh and yup a lot cause my brain shuts down my communication skills and that's about all I can do sometimes. Its maddening. I prefer to type and text because I don't seem to get nearly so off track and if I lose my point I can start over with my message...

[ofthevalley]

I have disorganized speach quite frequently. It's the one part of my illness that my husband struggles with. I imagine it would be difficult talking to someone and they get "red socks" as a response. Its not so bad most of the time because the kids don't really catch on to it yet. I'm hoping it will pass before they notice it.

[ofthevalley]

Or even better..."blah blah blah... what was I saying again"

[MrsBkr]

That happens to me often!