[lazlo]

I hate those stories about someone with schizophrenia / bipolar / just cuckoo doing some kind of crime.
why do the news people have to say "oh by the way the guy has a mental illness".
99 percent of crime is NOT done by someone with a known mental illness.
crime is from greed, from passion, from being stupid.

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[Erti]

I think most people don't know what schizophrenia really is. I told someone recently that I have schizophrenia and they were like "So does that mean you have two personalities.".

As for what people see on the media... they make fun mental illness or try to make it out to be dangerous.

I don't mean to sound racist
But I noticed they only use the mental illness excuse for white people
If an Arab goes and blows something up tey call them a terrorist
If a black person does it they call them a hard earned criminal

I think it's bogus either way
Mental illness is not at all the same as being violent and committing crimes
That isn't to say they don't have a mental illness I do believe if someone thinks it's okay to end the life of someone else for whatever reason, that there is something wrong mentally

[Erti]

I agree with Kori. You never hear about a black person committing suicide or having a mental illness. Especially when you know they're unstable. Some reason people see mental illness like depression and anxiety they think it's a "white persons" illness which makes people of color reluctant to seek help when they need it.

[lazlo]

second third the racial mental illness bias
white people commit mass shooting because they're ill
but 'arab' terrorism looks a lot like what a psychotic person does

If I ever got in a fight and hurt someone, it would say "Schizophrenic assaults blalblabla"

Which is what happened when my step dad assualted me and i defended myself but i didnt press charges

[Erti]

Originally Posted by Hyperagitate

If I ever got in a fight and hurt someone, it would say "Schizophrenic assaults blalblabla"

Which is what happened when my step dad assualted me and i defended myself but i didnt press charges

Which is ********. Having schizophrenia doesn't make you violent. I'm more violent towards myself than anyone else.

[ickydog2006]

I had never thought about it, but the race component is so true.

[JovanH]

it's all a stigma...the only reaction for not really knowing how react is hate. So they'll taint your mental health and exxagerate your motives. so really....nobody wins.

Originally Posted by lazlo

I hate those stories about someone with schizophrenia / bipolar / just cuckoo doing some kind of crime.
why do the news people have to say "oh by the way the guy has a mental illness".
99 percent of crime is NOT done by someone with a known mental illness.
crime is from greed, from passion, from being stupid.

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People always want to categorise, I want to be supportive on this , it is prejudicial , but if you can understand why people say this then you can come to ignore it.

Its a cruel illness, unfair , it causes sufferers to not trust people, to not trust their motives, worse , it actively makes them believe that people are nasty & evil when they are not. Its a cruel illness. These are common sympthoms. This is some part of why people are afraid of the illness.

The solution , treat the sympthoms, and make a life for yourself , where you can be reasonably happy

[Shoe]

Originally Posted by lazlo

second third the racial mental illness bias
white people commit mass shooting because they're ill
but 'arab' terrorism looks a lot like what a psychotic person does

I agree. I see similarities between the two groups of people also. I think that the underlying mechanism that causes most of these young men to go berserk or run amok is the boiling up of a conflicted libido, a bisexual conflict to be more precise. Most of them have trouble establishing a sustained healthy heterosexual relationship. The thought of possibly becoming a homosexual is just too ego dystonic for them to even consider to a point where they would rather die than accept that identity. They enter into what is called a homosexual panic. They probably blame their society for their predicament and being suicidal decide to become homicidal also.
Some of them see the ideology of some of these terrorist groups as a similar thought pattern as their own and by joining them they feel like they can become suicidal/homicidal and say it was for a cause.
Most of this explanation I got from J. Michael Mahoney's book and website.

[joacobanfield]

It's all stigma...I am a very peaceful person as long as you don't try to hurt me.
If someone tries, I tend to trascend into another way of thinking, almost a different me. My voices give me tactical support and my strength increases.
All cool, save that, while the normal person tries to incapacitate, I go into "DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY" mode and "shoot to kill".
I'm worried.

But yeah, always remember that people like us have a different view most of the time, and the high-ups don't like us offering an unique point of view.
So it's all a conspiracy to deal with our "uniqueness" IMO.

[Shoe]

I just saw another example in the news last night where the lines are blurred between mental illness and terrorism. A young man in Virgina stabbed a couple while yelling god is great in Arabic. The news mentioned something about him recently travelling to Turkey but also something about him hearing voices.

Originally Posted by Shoe

I agree. I see similarities between the two groups of people also. I think that the underlying mechanism that causes most of these young men to go berserk or run amok is the boiling up of a conflicted libido, a bisexual conflict to be more precise. Most of them have trouble establishing a sustained healthy heterosexual relationship. The thought of possibly becoming a homosexual is just too ego dystonic for them to even consider to a point where they would rather die than accept that identity. They enter into what is called a homosexual panic. They probably blame their society for their predicament and being suicidal decide to become homicidal also.
Some of them see the ideology of some of these terrorist groups as a similar thought pattern as their own and by joining them they feel like they can become suicidal/homicidal and say it was for a cause.
Most of this explanation I got from J. Michael Mahoney's book and website.

Originally Posted by lazlo

I hate those stories about someone with schizophrenia / bipolar / just cuckoo doing some kind of crime.
why do the news people have to say "oh by the way the guy has a mental illness".
99 percent of crime is NOT done by someone with a known mental illness.
crime is from greed, from passion, from being stupid.

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I couldn't agree more. I have bipolar disorder but I also have friends that have schizophrenia. I've never felt unsafe. Quite the opposite.

Sometimes someone with bipolar disorder appears to go fully manic and act like an epic a hole....like Charlie Sheen. But maybe that's just his personality and the street drugs.

[lazlo]

I read somewhere that 50 percent of
the psychotic population of the world
has never seen a doctor.
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[butcher0]

Everyone has a mental illness these days! For real, they want to point out the criminal has a mental illness, so do the producers, the camera men and women, the people reading the news etc. What about another point of difference? Is this about stigma? So what? Did it make them think it was okay to murder someone, because they have a mental illness?

So, maybe when the camera people escalate to levels of hysteria (from trauma, whatever it is) where they can't contain their anger, they'll get on TV as well. It's the cycle of life.

There is a plethora of data that indicates that a person with schizophrenia is no more or less dangerous than a person without schizophrenia. Thus it's simply scapegoating.

There is much data that does show an increase in violent tendencies with certain drug addictions. However, this is true for all people.