Why is schizophrenia a complicated mental health condition?

joshuas-mommy · Apr 13, 2017 at 06:06 PM

junkDNA · Apr 13, 2017 at 06:16 PM

I think schizophrenia and psychosis in general are difficult and complex disorders because the person suffering from them does not believe they are ill. Because of that they often do not get help and have a poor quality of life. Not to mention the people that love them

joshuas-mommy · Apr 13, 2017 at 06:27 PM

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I think schizophrenia and psychosis in general are difficult and complex disorders because the person suffering from them does not believe they are ill. Because of that they often do not get help and have a poor quality of life. Not to mention the people that love them

What do you mean the people who love them?

junkDNA · Apr 13, 2017 at 06:30 PM

Having gone through a long period of psychosis myself, I had no idea the intense and desperate helpless feeling someone could feel towards a psychotic person that they love. I have felt this with my sister now. It is an incredibly hard thing to watch someone you love and kno w lose their mind and you can't do anything about it.

greentires4me · Apr 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM

I was ashamed of hearing voices after a workplace accident but I commited suicide 26 times and they labelled me BPD. But all my poems document of me hearing a voices and the times I was in the psych ward. All my calls to 1-800-suicide...I kept saying the voices were commanding me to do this or that....or someone would get hurt.

Looking back I was really sick and It was me along telling my doctor "I think there is something wrong!" then she basically signed my Disability papers because she knew I couldn't work or function in society. I am greatful for her time and patience with me if it was only short from 2011-2013.

NineOfCups · Apr 14, 2017 at 11:44 AM

It is also frightening to admit that your whole world could be just fantasy, something unreal... I have a hard time with this... since of late, I gained illness insight very slowly I start to realize that I am ill. It took me decades to realize something is very wrong. But I can't accept the fact that everything I do and think comes from the illness. Maybe it's too shocking to realize. I am not sure...

leejosepho · Apr 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM

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...frightening to admit your whole world could be just fantasy, something unreal... But I can't accept the fact that everything I do and think comes from the illness...

I highly doubt it is an actual fact that "everything I do and think comes from the illness", but I certainly have learned to be cautious of my own mind in the same way I might be cautious of anything from anyone's mind...and all of that over many years has now kept me from "going over the edge" as I had used to fear almost daily at times.

A mod can mark this as some kind of "trigger" if it sounds upsetting, but it helped me greatly when I once heard someone say he had never been locked up for being crazy, only for *acting* crazy. So today I take every though captive and try to practice some careful discernment prior to actually acting upon any.

OliverB · Apr 14, 2017 at 12:15 PM

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A mod can mark this as some kind of "trigger" if it sounds upsetting, but it helped me greatly when I once heard someone say he had never been locked up for being crazy, only for *acting* crazy. So today I take every though captive and try to practice some careful discernment prior to actually acting upon any.

Yayh, while I do what everyone considers normal my psychiatrist allows me to be antipsychotics free and IP free, even if on papers they say I am delusional somewhat. Normal people don't get the realms.

I don't think schizophrenia is complicated, I think people just don't understand how someone's mind can break and go elsewhere. It's not unreal, It is an out of physical reality experience.

Apr 14, 2017 at 02:53 PM

I think schizophrenia is actually an umbrella term for several similar conditions. That's why there's such a huge range of symptoms and prognoses.

*Willow*

Apr 14, 2017 at 02:57 PM

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Yayh, while I do what everyone considers normal my psychiatrist allows me to be antipsychotics free and IP free, even if on papers they say I am delusional somewhat.

I think it partly depends on the pdoc as some will push APs for the slightest thing like an occasional voice that doesn't bother people, but some will leave you alone as long as you don't break society's rule about being a danger to yourself or others (though that can be open to interpretation).

*Willow*

OliverB · Apr 14, 2017 at 04:18 PM

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I think it partly depends on the pdoc as some will push APs for the slightest thing like an occasional voice that doesn't bother people, but some will leave you alone as long as you don't break society's rule about being a danger to yourself or others (though that can be open to interpretation).

*Willow*

Yes, it depends on the pdoc, that's why I hide from them for two years... until I was sure I found someone who believes more in psychotherapy and social intervention for psychosis.

leejosepho · Apr 14, 2017 at 06:14 PM

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Yes, it depends on the pdoc, that's why I hide from them for two years... until I was sure I found someone who believes more in psychotherapy and social intervention for psychosis.

I had considered myself "an escapee from the mental-health system" for a long time (while still occasionally seeing an understanding therapist as my "panic button") because meds had never actually fixed anything and I did not want to lose access to my own mind. I later mentioned all of that to a psychiatrist when I did eventually seek more help, but then she told me much had changed while I was out and she was there only for med management.

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junkDNA Comfy Sedation Member Since Sep 2012 Location: the woods Posts: 19,301 (SuperPoster!) 11 8,149 hugs given	Apr 13, 2017 at 06:30 PM #4 Having gone through a long period of psychosis myself, I had no idea the intense and desperate helpless feeling someone could feel towards a psychotic person that they love. I have felt this with my sister now. It is an incredibly hard thing to watch someone you love and kno w lose their mind and you can't do anything about it. __________________
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Anonymous59893 Guest Posts: n/a	Apr 14, 2017 at 02:53 PM #9 I think schizophrenia is actually an umbrella term for several similar conditions. That's why there's such a huge range of symptoms and prognoses. Willow
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