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Apr 05, 2018 at 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I think lamictal is more common than lithium now, it’s safer and doesn’t require any monitoring. The thing about bipolar as I understand is the moods tend to be long lasting, maybe not as long for mania, few days at best but if you hit depression it can be months. You may have it but I worry you have bpd on top of it due to the faster changes in mood and impulsive behavior especially self harm. A lot of people have both together. For some with bipolar all you need is an antipsychotic because the atypicals also act as a mood stabilizer, bpd is more complex to treat, doesn’t typically respond well to meds although a low dose of Abilify has been shown take the edge off and ssris can reduce impulsivity. You can also get hallucinations with bpd but they tend to be shorter in duration and typically in response to something, but again you may have both. I know the number one treatment for that is DBT though, for years there was no effective treatment. I’m going to try to find some sort of book for you on dbt or cbt but it’s more effective in person. The woebot uses cbt skills, I’m not sure if it’s still being tested for free but that’s one option.

Yeah Lamictal is the goal for people with bipolar. I only had 1 side effect from it. The lithium, made me gain weight. Lamictal is weight neutral. The only downside to lamictal, well there's two. It can cause rashes, most are unharmful, but the johnson rash is the one you don't want to get, if you get that then go straight to the ER and you'll be directed to get off of it ASAP. And the second reason it sucks is because of the first reason. You have to titrate up on it very very slowly. 25-50 milligrams a month uppage only, or else you are more at risk to get the rash.

On another note, regarding bipolar, i don't understand why my doctor thinks i have hypo/mania. I am the calmest person, i never get too excited, I never get angry, I haven't been hyper sexual in years, My affect is pretty damn flat, no depression or pleasure. :/ And yet she was stern that it is hypomania keeping me up. I have no racing thoughts. I'm in a zen-like state, clear minded, when I'm in bed. It's just that I can't feel sleepy ever. I get physically exhausted, but never the sleep hormone--which that stopped as soon as I started all this ssri nonsense that made me have a bipolar episode.

It's really frustrating that I'm not able to sleep well.

Apr 05, 2018 at 07:16 PM

Junk, I had some leg pain from all the stairs I had to climb the last couple of days with equipment, so i took a CBD oil sucker that my friend bought, he gave me two, and minutes later the pain went completely away.

I don't think it would help with my sleep but it has with pain.

EDIT: wow... I totally repeated myself here. Sorry folks. I guess i was excited and needed to express this new finding.

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Day Tripper

My friend gave me two cbd oil suckers. I just took one because of my leg pain from all the stairs i had to climb. Totally stopped the pain in minutes. Amazing. I haven't noticed any other side effects other than pain. I wonder if it would help me sleep.

Yes they would!

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:18 PM

The bf left early

Angelique67 · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ofthevalley

Hope you feel better.

Thanks. This is the third thing I've caught this year. Sucks. Not excruciating pain though.

Sometimes psychotic · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Day Tripper

Yeah Lamictal is the goal for people with bipolar. I only had 1 side effect from it. The lithium, made me gain weight. Lamictal is weight neutral. The only downside to lamictal, well there's two. It can cause rashes, most are unharmful, but the johnson rash is the one you don't want to get, if you get that then go straight to the ER and you'll be directed to get off of it ASAP. And the second reason it sucks is because of the first reason. You have to titrate up on it very very slowly. 25-50 milligrams a month uppage only, or else you are more at risk to get the rash.

On another note, regarding bipolar, i don't understand why my doctor thinks i have hypo/mania. I am the calmest person, i never get too excited, I never get angry, I haven't been hyper sexual in years, My affect is pretty damn flat, no depression or pleasure. :/ And yet she was stern that it is hypomania keeping me up. I have no racing thoughts. I'm in a zen-like state, clear minded, when I'm in bed. It's just that I can't feel sleepy ever. I get physically exhausted, but never the sleep hormone--which that stopped as soon as I started all this ssri nonsense that made me have a bipolar episode.

It's really frustrating that I'm not able to sleep well.

Hypo/mania can be weird....supposedly it’s what caused my month long psychosis but other than lack of sleep I didn’t have classic symptoms.....of course I wasn’t getting tired which is classic. How long has this been going on for you now, I thought hypo/mania was shorter than that.

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:30 PM

Shidoo blee

Shiddoo blue

Got a lotta lovin!

ofthevalley · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:32 PM

That lidocaine is pretty useless just makes me greasy lol.
I took the 800 and I still hurt. I’ll take another an hour before bed in hopes of warding off the pain I get when I lay down.
Made chicken soup for dinner so my son could eat. We still haven’t eaten and it’s 8:30. Bad mom.
Keeping my son home tomorrow. He’s been vomiting on and off which he does with strep. Well have the culture back tomorrow morning.

Apr 05, 2018 at 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

It’s snowing again, sigh will it ever be spring?

I was thinking the same thing! I'm wearing shorts tomorrow regardless! I'll be indoors painting by myself so screw the world!

My friend has heart issues so he can't come in, another guy is sick, another guy just said F it im not coming in for the rest of the week, and the boss is down south. So it's just me.

Im relistening to the harry potter series. I had to think about that and wonder if i told you that before... but i didn't i told my sister that. Man, is my memory playing tricks on me? Hmmm...

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ofthevalley

That lidocaine is pretty useless just makes me greasy lol.
I took the 800 and I still hurt. I’ll take another an hour before bed in hopes of warding off the pain I get when I lay down.
Made chicken soup for dinner so my son could eat. We still haven’t eaten and it’s 8:30. Bad mom.
Keeping my son home tomorrow. He’s been vomiting on and off which he does with strep. Well have the culture back tomorrow morning.

You should get cbd oil for your pain.

Apr 05, 2018 at 07:35 PM

ofthevalley, it is the simple things! I was sitting down to go to the bathroom like an athlete and dislocated my knee hahahahaha. Thank god it popped right back in place.

Findingreason · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:35 PM

So my wife and I were talking a bit about things over my past and to the present. My dad's views and thoughts on things influenced me for many years. For one example; the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011 would make all of Japan uninhabitable. I believed him. This on top of a multitude of other things. He fearmongers about all sorts of things. Its pretty obvious he is both paranoid and an asshole about things. Untreated medically too.

Well... I realized that like an onion, the layers of what I believed from my dad gradually decreased over the last year or two. I have more of a free mind now. I think weird occasionally myself, but I can recognize what my dad is thinking is off and not real. I wonder. If being on antipsychotics is helping bringing me insight into things I believed by osmosis over the years?

I need to think this over and look into my past more but I do wonder...

Apr 05, 2018 at 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Hypo/mania can be weird....supposedly it’s what caused my month long psychosis but other than lack of sleep I didn’t have classic symptoms.....of course I wasn’t getting tired which is classic. How long has this been going on for you now, I thought hypo/mania was shorter than that.

I've been having trouble with sleep since around July I started to take Benadryl mid august to help me sleep.

June 11th is when i got off the Lamictal... I don't want to go back on that, it made me pee soooooooooooooo often, it was torturous!

Sometimes psychotic · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Findingreason

So my wife and I were talking a bit about things over my past and to the present. My dad's views and thoughts on things influenced me for many years. For one example; the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011 would make all of Japan uninhabitable. I believed him. This on top of a multitude of other things. He fearmongers about all sorts of things. Its pretty obvious he is both paranoid and an asshole about things. Untreated medically too.

Well... I realized that like an onion, the layers of what I believed from my dad gradually decreased over the last year or two. I have more of a free mind now. I think weird occasionally myself, but I can recognize what my dad is thinking is off and not real. I wonder. If being on antipsychotics is helping bringing me insight into things I believed by osmosis over the years?

I need to think this over and look into my past more but I do wonder...

Usually one psychotic person can see through the delusions of another....there was an experiment where two people with the delusion of Jesus were put together and each could see the other was not Jesus but each still thought they were the real jesus. Still I belive there is such a thing as shared delusions among those who are close together called follie a deux or something like that. You should read up on it.

Sometimes psychotic · Apr 05, 2018 at 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Day Tripper

I've been having trouble with sleep since around July I started to take Benadryl mid august to help me sleep.

June 11th is when i got off the Lamictal... I don't want to go back on that, it made me pee soooooooooooooo often, it was torturous!

Hate to say it but I might agree with your pdoc, it’s possible the lamictal was helping you sleep. However if that’s the case you might just be able to increase your AP dose to use it as a mood stabilizer, the dose needed for bipolar is always higher than for psychosis for some reason. What is your Geodon dose like?

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 08:00 PM

Today was a pretty good day

Findingreason · Apr 05, 2018 at 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Usually one psychotic person can see through the delusions of another....there was an experiment where two people with the delusion of Jesus were put together and each could see the other was not Jesus but each still thought they were the real jesus. Still I belive there is such a thing as shared delusions among those who are close together called follie a deux or something like that. You should read up on it.

Yeah...I've heard of it before. I think I will read into it a little more. Looking at the wiki article....hmm. It sounds like my own beliefs, paranoia, and such have been separate and I recognize looking back they could be markedly different from my dad, but at the same time some may have been influenced by my father. I always thought he was right about certain things. But I turn out to be mistaken many many years later after the fact.

newtus · Apr 05, 2018 at 08:05 PM

But the bf dropped A WHOLE ROLL of toilet paper in the toilet after he used it trying to clean the seat.

Findingreason · Apr 05, 2018 at 08:07 PM

I really am beginning to think that is quite possible that Abilify and Olanzapine are working together and bringing my insight together more and more. I still seem to think weird at times, like believing my keyboard was sending demonic messages through the RGB lighting. But things seem to be gradually improving. I find talking to people with insight helps propel my own insight more.

Apr 05, 2018 at 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Hate to say it but I might agree with your pdoc, it’s possible the lamictal was helping you sleep. However if that’s the case you might just be able to increase your AP dose to use it as a mood stabilizer, the dose needed for bipolar is always higher than for psychosis for some reason. What is your Geodon dose like?

My geodon dosage is very low at just 80mgs. The one my doctor wanted me to try was seroquel but nu uh, i don't want that. I was thinking the same thing you were. Upping my dosage to 120mgs as a test. If that doesnt work then I might try ambien... sigh.

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