[reddragon]

am i the only one that heard the new presedential cermonies, were the prayes from someone giving were the words from from the bible from devels. the prayer given is for an anticrist or want to be. but it does fit. promises made, but we as people must now give up more., lets see, if markes on our body or placed inside are forced upon us the this presdent is the anti, or waant to be. anticrist..
please let this gothrough, if you are friends?

[reddragon]

thank you.

[pachyderm]

Dragon, I for one think that I see that you are trying to say something, but I am not sure what it is. I think most people here want to hear what you are saying; we are interested. But I think you will have to try to explain it more directly, and not in coded language so much. Maybe you think that you have to speak in code wherever you live, but here it is safer to actually say what you mean, even if you think what you actually mean will be found unacceptable. I, at least, want to hear what you actually think and feel, not in coded language, but directly. Try to think it and write it here. We, I think, will accept it as you say it and not as you think we want it to be.

[SeptemberMorn]

Reddragon, I understand fully what you are saying. I didn't watch the ceremony because I think the man is dangerous.

You're right. You can't speak of it plainly on the main board. I'm surprised that it stood like it is. You may want to PM someone with your concerns. They are very real and very valid!

You're in my prayers.

[deliquesce]

hi red dragon,

i agree with pachyderm. i'm trying to understand what you are saying but i'm a bit confused. if you want to talk privately and more openly then you can pm me if you'd like.

xo deli

[SeptemberMorn]

Reddragon, I did some inquiring and this is what I found. He does NOT have the power nor the authority to call for any mass tattooing, ok? He didn't say anything of the sort.

What happened was that the man that was administering the oath messed it up, so the main man repeated his oath in the right way. It wasn't a prayer, it was the oath of office.

What you're thinking about is not going to happen overnight. There is a forerunner to the man that will dictate that everyone get tattooed. So far, we don't know who the forerunner is.

I hope you can relax some for now.

[reddragon]

to all.i posted the post because i wrote it fore another sight. my computer was crashing and i had to put the message i wanted to post there, so i copied the message and posted it here, for that i am sorry.
as far as tattoos goes...? if this counts, computer chips are given to pets. ?? when in a post did i say tattoo?
but if you want a follow up to the topic.then ask.
the trueth is in the post.

[SeptemberMorn]

The time isn't right for that, Reddragon. I'm certain of it. Tattoos, chips, whatever. Not yet.

[pachyderm]

My cats have computer chips, for purposes of identification, in case they are lost. They had no say in whether they got the chips or not -- but I did. It was not done without my knowledge or agreement. It was not done by "the government".

[SeptemberMorn]

Purpose of identification, yes. We're not always going to be as free as we are now, Pachy.

[iamtwilight]

thank you for this post reddragon, and septembermorn for your input... some things i've been wondering about for a while now.

thank you.

- twilight

[pachyderm]

Sorry to be so blunt -- but would someone come out and say clearly what is being talked about here? What is this about devils, antiChrist, some man, not named, who is dangerous and is going to make everyone have tattoos, computer chips, whatever? Is everyone too scared to say what you think -- but you are willing to hint about it?

[iamtwilight]

pachyderm, i choose not to directly say it since... well as septembermorn put it "we won't be as free as we are now". i'm just glad i'm not alone thinking about these things.

- twilight

I normaly tell hubby about all the post I read or at least the ones I reply to as I like to share my things with him, however at this one he would laugh while I agree with you that the man is a danger to us all.

He scares me.

He scares alot of people.

There is an email going around about the twenty doller bill and other things that I have noticed too much to be a coincidence but I dare not show hubby as he will have me at the Drs to increase my meds, I would understand where he is coming from but this time he is wrong.

Good luck to us all we need it I think.

[SeptemberMorn]

Not that I like the man in any way, shape or form, but our president has been accused of sooooo many things and most of them are without foundation. He is no the Anti-Christ, either. He certainly does not have the power to pass a law where everyone has to be tattooed with the # 666!

Any clearer to you, Pachy? It's not a fairy tale.

[ECHOES]

oh for pity's sake.

the man is religious. I almost couldn't vote for him because of that.

read the papers, watch the current event news. the man wants peace in the world and fairness and kindness for everyone.

[spiritual_emergency]

Are we talking about Barack Obama? Personally, I like him. I like anyone who's willing to take a stand against torture and violations of human rights. I don't see anything "Anti-Christish" about him at all.

Tishie: There is an email going around about the twenty doller bill and other things...

I find snopes.com to be an accurate and authoritative source when it comes to things like email rumors. They have an entire page devoted to Barack Obama and various rumors that are reputed to be true: Barack Obama @ snopes.com

SeptemberMorn: I understand fully what you are saying. I didn't watch the ceremony because I think the man is dangerous. You're right. You can't speak of it plainly on the main board. I'm surprised that it stood like it is. You may want to PM someone with your concerns. They are very real and very valid!

I'm surprised to see you here SeptemberMorn. Last time I had any sort of encounter with you you were doing your darndest to demonize schizophrenics. I was left with the distinct impression you didn't care for that group of people in the least so I'm not sure why you're here, now, fueling their fears with your hints and allegations.

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[spiritual_emergency]

reddragon: to all.i posted the post because i wrote it fore another sight. my computer was crashing and i had to put the message i wanted to post there, so i copied the message and posted it here, for that i am sorry. as far as tattoos goes...? if this counts, computer chips are given to pets. ?? when in a post did i say tattoo? but if you want a follow up to the topic.then ask. the trueth is in the post.

Hello reddragon,
The thing to remember about truth is that just because someone says something is true, that doesn't mean it it. You have to find your own truth.

Speaking from my own truth, I do not fear Barack Obama. No President can please everyone because there's 300 million Americans to please as well as a huge global population. By the time he's finished being President, there will probably be plenty of people who have criticisms. All the same, I think he will be a good and honorable President but that is my opinion. Other people will have different opinions.

Meantime, I agree with pachyderm -- I hope you continue to share your voice in this space and to do your best to share clearly. There are others here who do want to hear what you have to say and to help each other where we can.

~ Namaste

PS: New song in my signature. No words but there is chanting and lots of beautiful nature pictures.

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[reddragon]

caught off guard a bit. again sorry. i did not mean to take this subject here. but if anyone wants to know, MANY (not my voices ) of others agree the figure, antichrist promises many things and does many to get those fouling him and those worship him in a way.
look at things now. many worship him, made promises,
as far as history is concerned, remember one thing all know is the truth, history is written by the victors. history has showed that.

[reddragon]

thank you. i heard the music and do understand some of the chanting words. ty.

[SeptemberMorn]

On the contrary, SE. I was trying to set Reddragon at ease. Read again what I said to them.

Reddragon and I are speaking of Biblical prophecy. In case you are not aware of it, we are not allowed to speak of any specific religion on this board.

I saw a cry for help and I answered, nothing more.

I consider the portion of your post to me a personal attack and will be dealt with in the proper manner.

[nowheretorun]

Originally Posted by spiritual_emergency

Are we talking about Barack Obama? Personally, I like him. I like anyone who's willing to take a stand against torture and violations of human rights. I don't see anything "Anti-Christish" about him at all.

I'm surprised to see you here SeptemberMorn. Last time I had any sort of encounter with you you were doing your darndest to demonize schizophrenics. I was left with the distinct impression you didn't care for that group of people in the least so I'm not sure why you're here, now, fueling their fears with your hints and allegations.

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i'm only following this thread part time so please excuse me if i may have missed something...

reddragon, all of your thoughts are real for you and cause a reaction from within that is real for you... it is no different for any of us... for this reason it is very important that we take caution with our thoughts and thinking processes... we are talking about a very influential leader in a time of chaos, change, and confusion... many so called 'conspiracy' theories abound on the internet and throughout our media world.. if we allow ourselves to believe dark plots, we will shortly find ourselves in dark places, seeking cover... if, on the other hand, we choose to create for our own self a safe place, one that avoids mystery and fiction, we can base our own values and behaviors on the theories and ideas that promote growth, rather than darkness....

when it gets right down to the bottom of it all, we all desire the same... safety, love, caring, kindness, food, shelter, etc....

as individuals, and combined, we make our planet and home what it is... we each are carrying the same degree of responsibility for this place we share and we each will be held individually accountable for our actions here...

i hope its ok to add this quote..

'In about the same degree as you are helpful, you will be happy.' ~Karl Reiland

finding joy for ourselves is really not as difficult as it seems...

best to all always

[spiritual_emergency]

SeptemberMorn: I consider the portion of your post to me a personal attack and will be dealt with in the proper manner.

Feel free SeptemberMorn. But the last time you and I discussed "schizophrenics" I noted that they were, in my opinion, some of the most beautiful and wounded people I'd ever encountered. You responded that they were "twisted and evil".

I have never felt comfortable in your vicinity as a result of the attitudes you carry and express about "schizophrenics" anymore than a child who was raped would feel comfortable around a pedophile who openly displayed his lack of respect for the rights and basic dignity of a child.

I see that your tone softened in your response to reddragon at a certain point so who knows, maybe you've decided that schizophrenics are deserving of human dignity after all. Still, I question your motives for being here, in this forum. You have plenty of other forums you can participate in.

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[iamtwilight]

spiritual emergency good to see you again. (katie kaboom with a new screenname)

as for the conversation... i'm not so sure if i'm actually talking about the biblical prophecy septembermorn and possibly reddragon are talking about (i have only studied the bible in small portions so far) but tishie's 20 dollar bill reference is what i've been thinking of a lot lately...

i'm not exactly sure how much of it is linked with the writings in the bible.

- twilight

[spiritual_emergency]

Namaste twilight

tishie's 20 dollar bill reference is what i've been thinking of a lot lately...

I haven't seen that and not even snopes seemed to have any reference to it. Do you have more information?

The larger point is that individuals in crisis states often suffer from fragmented ego barriers -- as a result, the world can come flooding in, in a most distressing manner creating intense fear. Part of the recovery process includes dismantling fear and anxiety cycles that can be triggered as well as re-learning how to reality test. For that, we need reliable information, not speculation.

i'm not exactly sure how much of it is linked with the writings in the bible.

I have a book recomendation I'll have to post. It's called, Archetype of the Apocalypse: A Jungian Interpretation of the Book of Revelation. It's not about religion. It's about fragmentation crises.

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