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I've been thinking quite a lot lately about studying Law at university (when I get my education back on track). I've always had an interest in it, particularly in the areas of mental health and criminal law, but here in the UK it's a very competitive degree course to get onto at a half decent university and I've always been put off by the "money hungry lawyer" image and my mum put me off it when I was talking about it saying that I don't have the personality to be any kind of solicitor/barrister, which is true, I'm definitely not assertive and my grades throughout school including my GCSEs were just average, Bs and Cs mostly (school was a tough time for me), though I left school three years ago.
I don't think I want/know if I want to be in the mainstream legal profession, but I want to study the degree course, if that makes sense. Afterwards I could possibly join the police and go into CID after the 2 year probationary period (as a frontline/beat copper), although I'm not sure i'd be accepted into the police with my mental health record, or perhaps go into mental health advocacy, someone suggested this before though I seriously need to do more research, and if not then I would just really like to study the degree, I do find most areas of law interesting. Does anyone have any advice for me? About getting in the door at least if not any career suggestions. I've been thinking of maybe resitting my GCSEs privately and then doing a Social Sciences Access to HE course and maybe try to get some voluntary work along the way. Or should I just stick to my original plan of going into the biological sciences since it's a long shot? I'm 19 atm and I'm at that stage of life where I am not fully sure what the hell I want lol, I'm unemployed as well, relying on my family for support and moving soon. Thanks. __________________ "It's only after you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything" Last edited by PsychiatricEnigma; Jun 14, 2012 at 12:38 AM.. |
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I'd work on becoming a paralegal and then you could get into all sorts of stuff more easily?
http://nalptraining.co.uk/training_pathways.htm The pay is quite good but it's not as "rigorous"/cut-throat a profession (at least, not in the United States :-) __________________ "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius |
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*waves* I know we've spoken before, but I don't know if you knew that I've just become qualified as a barrister here in the UK? Well, yep! I get my call in July and . . . so I have a lot to say and feel free to PM me if you want to ask more, or if you want to ask any more questions.
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The name on your degree will matter less if you want to be a solicitor and you don't want to go to the Magic Circle (the top commercial firms in the UK -- Slaughers, Freshfields, Linklaters, Allen and Overy, and Clifford Chance). Outside the top commercial firms, it matters more that you get good grades and good recommendations from your professors, and that you've done things other than study for your degree (volunteering, societies, etc.) It's (mostly) true that if you want to go to the Bar, you'll need an Oxbridge degree (and probably a master's from an Ivy League uni). Next best degrees are from the LSE, King's and UCL. I've decided to become a commercial barrister, though, so I'm probably very biassed on the whole thing. If you want to work in criminal or mental health law, however, the Bar is much more open to you -- they'd rather see good grades and community involvement from a decent uni than see just the name on your degree. Also, if you want to work in mental health law after you train, then don't discount your experiences with mental illness as a means of getting to uni even if your A-level grades weren't so good -- and especially if they were a long time ago. And don't worry about the money hungry lawyer image! It's only like that if you go into commercial law; rest assured that you'll live a life of near-penury if you decided to do the kind of work -- criminal, family and mental health -- that is financed mostly through legal aid. Quote:
The law is kind of an obscure profession I can explain more the routes into becoming a solicitor or a barrister, if you're interested. Just remember that people with law degrees do almost any job you can imagine; I have former classmates who did everything from becoming magicians (seriously) to investment banking to journalism to organising the occupy protests. Quote:
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PS: The whole idea that "you have to be super aggressive" if you're a lawyer is a load of tosh. Confident, yes . . . but not assertive or aggressive. I'm quiet, I hate confrontation and anger to the point where I start to cry, and because English is my second language I often get a funny accent that makes me nearly incomprehensible . . . I'm still a lawyer
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PPS: Another legal career you might want to look at is becoming a barrister's clerk.
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/barrister...escription.htm __________________ Psychiatric Survivor "And just when I've lost my way, and I've got too many choices . . . . I hear voices!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLCfb54e_kM |
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Studying law its always something i wanted to do (.. but none supported me to go for it , instead cause of them now im studying something i hated my entire life .. i get good scores but i still hate it .. the only thing that keeps me going is thinking at the money i will get ( 5 000 euro / month )
But after im done with this ... i will get my master in naval law .. its related to my current university profile and it involves studying law so i have hopes |
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Yes, the top firms will indeed investigate every aspect of your life from the time you turned 12 Surprisingly, they'll select people with **** grades from top unis, though . . . . I think it's an arrogance thing. I have a classmate who got a 2:2 on his degree who is going to Clifford Chance, which I'm sure is on the power of the university name alone (unless he knows somebody who knows somebody!).
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