reporting?

Elli-Beth · 11:05 PM

Does anyone know if T's have to report non-suicidal self injury in adults?

splitimage · Mar 17, 2011 at 09:43 PM

Nope - whom would they report to? If you're over 18 in the US or Canada you're records with T are completely confidential - they're not even allowed to discuss you with your family, without your express consent.

The laws maybe a little different in the US but here are the only circumstances in Canada where confidentially can be broken.

1. You are an immediate danger to yourself. And this means SU not for SI.
2. You have expressed intent to harm someone else, and they believe you will act on your intent and have the means to carry it out.
3. Abuse of a minor child.
4. Driving a motor vehicle while impaired.
5. You have been abused by a health care provider.

If you're in a care setting where various health care providers are on your team, anything you say can and will most likely be shared with the other providers on your team, as part of the continuity of care. But that's it.

--splitimage

lotusflames · Mar 18, 2011 at 05:49 AM

i wouldn't have thought so.

granite1 · Mar 18, 2011 at 10:15 AM

how about doctors do they need to report patients who are SI and if so to whom do they report to ? if you are an adult.like if i was cutting myself and doc knew legaly what do they need to do.

Sannah · Mar 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM

In the USA docs and therapists need to report adult and child abuse to the protection agencies and police and if you are a harm to yourself or others they would report this to the court to get you committed. Harm to yourself is being suicidal.

Mar 18, 2011 at 01:51 PM

I had a psychiatrist tell me she could report me to child services for cutting and being suicidal. I did not go back there.

suzzie · 06:24 PM

i understand now. had to read it a few times to get it.

Elli-Beth · Mar 18, 2011 at 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannah

In the USA... they would report this to the court to get you committed. Harm to yourself is being suicidal.

Um, I specified NON-suicidal in my question... Harm to yourself like small bruises/burns is not a death wish

Sannah · Mar 18, 2011 at 07:14 PM

I understand, I told you what the law was and your SI falls outside of this.

granite1 · Mar 18, 2011 at 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannah

In the USA docs and therapists need to report adult and child abuse to the protection agencies and police and if you are a harm to yourself or others they would report this to the court to get you committed. Harm to yourself is being suicidal.

so if i told my T that i SI she would report me to the cops

suzzie · 11:44 PM

granite thats what i thought when i read it the first few times. but she means if you were suicidal then they would. i told my t and nothings happened yet. i think you have to be careful what you say tho.

Sannah · Mar 21, 2011 at 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by granite1

so if i told my T that i SI she would report me to the cops

No, a harm to yourself is suicidal. Your SI does not fall under adult abuse.

granite1 · Mar 21, 2011 at 01:17 PM

warning mention of SI.

so if i went to my doc appointment and my NP noticed that i cut the bottom of my feet she wouldnt have report it to anyone or to my T.i did this a bit ago and i am worried if i go to my appointment with my NP she will notice because she does feet checks do to my diabedese and i have fresh scars that are not quite healed.esp after this race thing i did sat.i am worried it will cause a bunch of crap ifse decides to report it to the great powers to be whoever they may be.

Sannah · Mar 21, 2011 at 01:44 PM

Your medical info is confidential and it can't be shared with your therapist unless you signed a waiver for your doc to share with your therapist. Your doc can't call the cops on you. What you are doing isn't against the law.

As a diabetic, isn't choosing your feet to cut the worst possible place?

granite1 · Mar 21, 2011 at 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannah

Your medical info is confidential and it can't be shared with your therapist unless you signed a waiver for your doc to share with your therapist. Your doc can't call the cops on you. What you are doing isn't against the law.

As a diabetic, isn't choosing your feet to cut the worst possible place?

yes but it is easier to hide .i know she will lecture me about this also

thetheft · Mar 23, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Not all SI is suicidal, but yes, it all has to be reported. Youre endangering yourself.

Sannah · Mar 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM

SI isn't suicidal? Who is SI being reported to thetheft?

thetheft · Mar 23, 2011 at 02:58 PM

It can be. But not everyone who cuts themselves or burns themselves is actually trying to kill themselves. There are people who do it to kill themselves. But most dont. (I've read every artical there is on the subject for a paper i did in school.)
And usually police. They put a watch on you or something, where someone has to keep an eye on you, because they assume you are trying to kill yourself.

Sannah · Mar 24, 2011 at 10:14 AM

If you did a poll here I think that people would agree that SI is SI and suicide is suicide. The mental health community has just started to understand SI. I'll also bet that you can't find anyone here who had a therapist call the police for SI.

skeksi · Mar 24, 2011 at 06:12 PM

This may not be useful to you, but I always figured that if a doctor pushed about my scars (I no longer SI), I would explain that I was under a therapist's care and give the name and number of my therapist. I know he won't disclose anything without my specific permission, and I figured any medical professional who felt my scars indicated any danger would be reassured to hear I had a therapist supervising me.

Just my thought on it.

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Sannah Legendary Member Since Jul 2008 Posts: 19,179 (SuperPoster!) 15 1,773 hugs given	Mar 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM #17 SI isn't suicidal? Who is SI being reported to thetheft? __________________ Don't let your problems or the world make you feel small. Stretch your arms out over your head. Take a deep breathe. Tell yourself that you are big. You are big, not small. You always have space, you are not trapped........ I'm an ISFJ
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