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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 03:55 AM
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I think legalizing prostitution would have benefits and withdrawals. No, it wouldn't stop some of the abuse, but it would help some. It's legal in one county in Nevada (last I checked), and there hasn't been one STD reported with the women getting tested regularly and using condoms.
For clarification only, twelve counties in Nevada allow prostitution though only eight have existing brothels. Also, there has never been a case (since mandatory testing began in the mid 80's) of HIV, though there have been other STD's diagnosed.

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I also get angry about people who speak about prostitutes in a derogatory fashion, because most didn't choose the profession, and others didn't know what they were getting into.
I don't like to see anyone talked poorly about and prostitutes are no different however, while I agree that many didn't know what they were getting into, I do disagree that most didn't choose the profession unless you are referring to 'economically forced' but I still think that's a choice.
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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 04:13 AM
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I jumped right in without thinking, thinking I had all the answers and in reality I have none. I should not have responded in any way to the "child trafficking" issue. Thinking right off hand that legalizing prostituion would solve some of the world's problems with abuse of women, children and even men. Maybe just a small percentage but even that is a start..

But then the topic is "why is prostitution illegal". Thinking the topic would focus only on "folks" that are of age and not minors. But again, "prostitution" touches on many areas. Unfortunately it can touch on drugs and abuse of minors...Maybe this thread wasn't such a good idea....I guess in my "magical thinking" that if prostitution was legal, there would be less abuse towards "people" men, women. Especially those of "legal age" that are "working" the streets...Minors never enter my mind at the time I started the thread............

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 09:03 AM
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radio, I understand the desire to fix all the problems in the world. I do think that legalization of many of the random things governments deem as illegal would go a long way to helping and not hurting. You have a good and valid question and I think for the most part, a lot of thoughtful replies have been added.

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00 AM
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The wearing of hats by women in church is a Bible thing, not a male dominance demand.
The woman's long hair was her "strength" (remember Solomon?) and had to be kept "under wraps" so the men wouldn't be in danger.

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 11:26 AM
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Thanks perpetuallysad. And, yes,I agree, there are alot of thoughtful responses. I wanted to respond to several other responses, but I tripped over my own thoughts and retreated. Silly me..So I am back on target ..I think..

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 11:48 AM
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I jumped right in without thinking, thinking I had all the answers and in reality I have none. I should not have responded in any way to the "child trafficking" issue. Thinking right off hand that legalizing prostituion would solve some of the world's problems with abuse of women, children and even men. Maybe just a small percentage but even that is a start..

But then the topic is "why is prostitution illegal". Thinking the topic would focus only on "folks" that are of age and not minors. But again, "prostitution" touches on many areas. Unfortunately it can touch on drugs and abuse of minors...Maybe this thread wasn't such a good idea....I guess in my "magical thinking" that if prostitution was legal, there would be less abuse towards "people" men, women. Especially those of "legal age" that are "working" the streets...Minors never enter my mind at the time I started the thread............
I appreciate your posing this question.
I wish more people would question things that seem out of kilter, and quit just accepting things that feel wrong.

yes... even that is a start-- like you said.....

unfortunately things illegal have all kinds of unpleasant branches that stem off of the base....
like girls that claim they are 18 when only 15 and being prostituted.(and no one really checks-- it's the money or the sex they are more interested in, not the well being of the girl) Men use them and then go to their 14 year old daughter's soccer game and take all the girls out for pizza-- how "effed" up is that? ....maybe if it was legal-- officials would be regulating it and thoroughly checking the age of the prostitutes-- that would be a good thing(IMO)

I appreciate your hopeful pondering... I do very similar.
I so don't want anyone to be treated unfairly, to feel less than, to be abused by those with more power/money.

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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I think it's a good topic and I'm not sure where I stand opinion wise because there's pros and cons on both sides. If they would legalize it, then wouldn't it end like Holland or Nevada where there's a special area in a town- this would be a problem because no one would want it in their neighborhood.

This is off topic, but it really sizzles me the way some countries in the Orient(can't remember which ones) have child prostitution. Men from North American will plan trips specifically for that. Sadly it's actually a tourist attraction....grrr

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 05:50 PM
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The woman's long hair was her "strength" (remember Solomon?) and had to be kept "under wraps" so the men wouldn't be in danger.

http://www.gotquestions.org/hair-length.html
It's about honor, and veiling the holy vessel. I'm sending you the references of old.

It does fit into the thread though, because in ancient times, prostitutes went about without any veil or head covering, thus showing their refusal to be in submission to God or any man, a type of early feminism perhaps?


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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 07:40 PM
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The woman's long hair was her "strength" (remember Solomon?)
Not to be confused with the correct reference person, Samson (Thanks, JD :-)

I think in any male/female interaction involving money, business, etc. the female is (still) going to be at a disadvantage because power is still with males.

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Default Jul 08, 2010 at 08:29 PM
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thank you purple fins I'm with you as not wanting anyone to be treated unfairly. Unfortunately, it happens every day.....

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Default Jul 09, 2010 at 02:54 AM
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AkAngel, you're right...it was HIV I meant, not all STD's. I forgot a bit of what I used to know.

As for the other thing you commented on, I think most women don't choose to go into the profession; a lot do, but I think far more often, teenagers (especially runaways from a bad home environment) meet up with pimps, who take them in and make the girls or boys feel they need the pimp, and then it turns into abuse and cruelty.

I read a book called SEX WORK or SEX WORKERS, a while back, all writings by women who have prostituted, escorted or worked the streets, not all negative, but most were.

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Default Jul 09, 2010 at 08:22 PM
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All good and thoughtful responses here. I've refrained from writing a response because my personal opinion is that prostitution is a subjugation of women (or men) who offer themselves in the sex act for money. Yeah, I know it's the "oldest profession" and I visualize those footsteps in Pompeii..follow to the brothel. But I still think it's sad.
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Default Jul 09, 2010 at 09:34 PM
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These are just some random thoughts...

I think prostitution would be "liberating" for women. Why would I think such a thing? Well, if prostitution would be legal then it would be woman's choice to sell her "services", she would then be in control. She has a service a man wants, he pays for it. Like buying a car. Take his pick, pay for it, everyone is happy. She pockets the money and he leaves with a smile.......

There still is a huge "moral" issue to all of this.. But then why would it be a moral issue when morals generally are not considered when "dating". Free sex is ok? But to pay for it is not? Before ya know it, one has slept with l0 different folks or more. So what then is wrong with legalizing prostitution. Only difference here might be the feeling if one has "feelings" or say "I love you", then sex is ok...??? not a moral issue then.. right? Why would it then be a moral issue with prostitution..

Sex is used to sell cars, food, clothing and perfume..almost everything. Put that sexy girl or sexy man in front of a bottle of $200 perfume and the perfume sells really fast.. We are scraping our pennies to buy that perfume and the manufacturer is laughing all the way to the bank..

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One of the reasons it's a moral issue is because many married men hire prostitutes. Maybe some women think if it's legalized, it would make it easier for men to cheat IDK.

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Default Jul 10, 2010 at 12:11 AM
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Good point lynn. Forgot about the married men.. hmmmmmmmmm... now what? Dern men should stay home where they belong.. But some don't. Have to think on this one.. hmmm .. card them at the gate... shrugs shoulders

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Default Jul 10, 2010 at 01:05 AM
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My mom says that in Germany it is legal, and they actually check the "girls" for STD. If the "girl" is clean she's tagged. At least that's the way it was when we were over there, and I was in preschool then which was about 20 years ago. It may have changed.

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Not sure, I think they should legalize it, it would be controlled and much safer, "pimping" would have to a professional thing and the women would be able to get checked, hospitalized if needed, housed, payed properly and still make money. People kidnapping children to be forced in to prostitution would be easier to focus on.

I'm not for prostitution but I think it would be a lot better if it were to be legalized.

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Default Jul 10, 2010 at 01:51 AM
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I believe it's mostly a male dominance thing, like why women had to wear hats in churches and be overly clothed; they were "bad"/temptresses, it wasn't the man's fault, he can't help but be a man and want to mate.Women don't have those urges, don't you know. When was the last time you heard of a gigolo/male prostitute being arrested? Some men are violent toward gay men and not much nicer toward women taking control of their own sexuality either.

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I dunoo... I know I sure do.

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and I know a man can control his boner, but his URGES, yes. Maybe in ancient times this excuse could have been good enough but this is the 21st century and that excuse is long gone, guys like that are now usually called sex offenders.

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One of the reasons it's a moral issue is because many married men hire prostitutes. Maybe some women think if it's legalized, it would make it easier for men to cheat IDK.

I can't agree with this, if a woman's husband, or a husband's wife were cheating with them on a prostitute then that person is a piece of trash lol.

Legalizing prostitution isn't going to make it easier, it wont even make a difference. It's easy to have sex with a woman for free, I know at least 5 females I could get down with if I wanted for free. Besides if you're married to someone good and you take care of your lover bother emotionally and physically you shouldn't have anything to worry about. You know?

The majority of people who see it as a moral issue probably have low self esteem and are paranoid.

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My mom says that in Germany it is legal, and they actually check the "girls" for STD. If the "girl" is clean she's tagged. At least that's the way it was when we were over there, and I was in preschool then which was about 20 years ago. It may have changed.
Hopefully they still do lol. If they were to legalize it in America then check the females/males for STDs monthly, it would be a good system, that's what they do with pornstars

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Default Jul 10, 2010 at 03:37 AM
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Is prostitution maybe a form of "getting back" at men. Make them pay, make them pay big time? Do those who prostitute now really like sex that much to have sex several times a night? But then if they are "high dollar" ladies then they only have sex once a night. Would a prostitute enjoy her job? But then how can a man really enjoy "sex" with a woman that prob had sex with a another man a few hours earlier?

Guess I am just thinking too much.. Am thinking I'd make a lousy prostitute. I got really "irked" when a guy asked me if I'd do a three-some. Fire spit from my eyes and he got the point without my having to verbalize the "no". lol Just because I could not do it, it should not make it wrong for those who want to prostitute? right?

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